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Posted by dino27 on 6/23/2021 10:11:00 AM (view original):
No - it is one thing to call out people for thinking that their way is the only way but you should not bash people for the content of their beliefs unless ithose beliefs are designed to spread hatred or violence.

full disclosure - I once mocked people for things I felt were “wrong” so i was there once but I have evolved on those issues and you should too.
you mean like the way you constantly bash and mock tangplay for his belief that he is Jewish?
6/23/2021 12:18 PM
Well... that's not really a belief, wylie. It is a fact that I am Jewish.
6/23/2021 12:20 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 6/23/2021 12:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 6/23/2021 10:11:00 AM (view original):
No - it is one thing to call out people for thinking that their way is the only way but you should not bash people for the content of their beliefs unless ithose beliefs are designed to spread hatred or violence.

full disclosure - I once mocked people for things I felt were “wrong” so i was there once but I have evolved on those issues and you should too.
you mean like the way you constantly bash and mock tangplay for his belief that he is Jewish?
No idiot - I don’t bash his Christian belief.
only that he thinks it is fine to say he is definitional Jewish according to Jewish law which he is not.

im not sure if you can understand the difference.
6/23/2021 1:36 PM
He can say he is Jewish. It is a free country but you can’t be Jewish and Christian at the same time according to Jews. To Christians it might be ok.
ti Jews it’s like saying I’m a vegan who eats steak every Friday.
6/23/2021 1:39 PM
If he wants to be silly and immature and insist he is Jewish that’s his business but Jews laugh at that or at least ignore it.
6/23/2021 1:40 PM
Personally I don’t care what he says I have as much respect for him as the all3 guy has for me.

and you - you never even said a word in support for Israel and don’t even understand my point.
very disappointing.

I just explain what Jewish law and tradition is on the subject.
he has Jewish blood do he has privledges gaining entry to Israel based on that but not as a Jew.
6/23/2021 1:51 PM
I'm still waiting on what part of "Jewish law" means I can't be Jewish.

Where in "Jewish law" does it say that matrilineality is cancelled by being Christian?
6/23/2021 2:18 PM
Posted by tangplay on 6/23/2021 2:18:00 PM (view original):
I'm still waiting on what part of "Jewish law" means I can't be Jewish.

Where in "Jewish law" does it say that matrilineality is cancelled by being Christian?
Even if both of your parents are Jewish if you convert to Christianity or admit to believing in Christianity you are not a Jew.

in your case neither of your parents are even Jewish.

google and do your own research if you don’t believe me and you will also find out that you do have certain rights to entry into Israel based on blood.

your blood is not cancelled but great grandparents won’t count for right of return to Israel.
6/23/2021 2:34 PM
Posted by dino27 on 6/23/2021 2:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 6/23/2021 2:18:00 PM (view original):
I'm still waiting on what part of "Jewish law" means I can't be Jewish.

Where in "Jewish law" does it say that matrilineality is cancelled by being Christian?
Even if both of your parents are Jewish if you convert to Christianity or admit to believing in Christianity you are not a Jew.

in your case neither of your parents are even Jewish.

google and do your own research if you don’t believe me and you will also find out that you do have certain rights to entry into Israel based on blood.

your blood is not cancelled but great grandparents won’t count for right of return to Israel.
So if you were to have kids with another Christian they would not have a right to Israeli citizenship if you never became one because they would not have Jewish parents or any Jewish grandparents - assuming your spouse had no Jewish blood.
great grandparents will not be considered a close enough blood line.
6/23/2021 2:41 PM
Posted by dino27 on 6/23/2021 1:51:00 PM (view original):
Personally I don’t care what he says I have as much respect for him as the all3 guy has for me.

and you - you never even said a word in support for Israel and don’t even understand my point.
very disappointing.

I just explain what Jewish law and tradition is on the subject.
he has Jewish blood do he has privledges gaining entry to Israel based on that but not as a Jew.
I don't really care if you are disappointed that I chose not to voice my support for Israel. Why do you care? You just called me an idiot. Why do you care what an idiot thinks or says?

As far as Jews laughing at his claiming to be Jewish, I'm Jewish and I don't laugh. Who made you the arbiter of who cann and cann't call themselves Jewish?
6/23/2021 2:52 PM
Posted by dino27 on 6/23/2021 1:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 6/23/2021 12:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 6/23/2021 10:11:00 AM (view original):
No - it is one thing to call out people for thinking that their way is the only way but you should not bash people for the content of their beliefs unless ithose beliefs are designed to spread hatred or violence.

full disclosure - I once mocked people for things I felt were “wrong” so i was there once but I have evolved on those issues and you should too.
you mean like the way you constantly bash and mock tangplay for his belief that he is Jewish?
No idiot - I don’t bash his Christian belief.
only that he thinks it is fine to say he is definitional Jewish according to Jewish law which he is not.

im not sure if you can understand the difference.
who's the idiot? I didn't say you bash his Christian belief. I said you bash him for saying he is Jewish. Which you do.
6/23/2021 2:54 PM
I have looked further into this.
Tangplay is not entitled to Israeli citizenship based upon his mother’s mother if he has turned 18.
then no longer eligible.
6/23/2021 2:56 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 6/23/2021 2:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 6/23/2021 1:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 6/23/2021 12:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 6/23/2021 10:11:00 AM (view original):
No - it is one thing to call out people for thinking that their way is the only way but you should not bash people for the content of their beliefs unless ithose beliefs are designed to spread hatred or violence.

full disclosure - I once mocked people for things I felt were “wrong” so i was there once but I have evolved on those issues and you should too.
you mean like the way you constantly bash and mock tangplay for his belief that he is Jewish?
No idiot - I don’t bash his Christian belief.
only that he thinks it is fine to say he is definitional Jewish according to Jewish law which he is not.

im not sure if you can understand the difference.
who's the idiot? I didn't say you bash his Christian belief. I said you bash him for saying he is Jewish. Which you do.
As you should do if you had any self respect.
6/23/2021 2:57 PM
I just want the part of "Jewish law" that says I am not Jewish.

Just a quote please.

Thank you!
6/23/2021 3:12 PM
You are capable of looking it up and you can also research the 4 branches of Judaism - orthodox .....conservative......reform.......,reconstruction and all agree.
6/23/2021 3:19 PM
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