Hopefully you are asking these questions in good faith.

you seem to be against my consulting experts who know more then I do.

Posted by dino27 on 6/24/2021 12:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2021 12:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 6/24/2021 12:28:00 PM (view original):
Whether or not you are Jewish hinges on whether the child of a mother who converted to Christianity from Judaism and has a son who has always been a practicing Christian by choice is considered to be a Jew after the age of majority.

the issue is whether you are technically Jewish or not according to Jewish law which may have different readings much like the way the Supreme Court interprets laws.

one would think if you were really posting in good faith that you would salute the consulting of 4 rabbis but not you.

also I will mention that you had a bar mitzvah but as a Christian engaging in the Jewish tradition.

Does Israel get to determine who is Jewish?

As far as right of return they do have rules set by rabbinical council.

im rather sure that before you were 18 you had right of return but not after 18
even though as a minor you were of Christian faith.

im checking this too.

You realize this is completely irrelevant as to whether I am Jewish or not, right?

Posted by dino27 on 6/24/2021 12:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2021 12:55:00 PM (view original):
Note how I've cited numerous websites to show that the only relevant factor is whether your mom is Jewish... if your mom is Jewish, you are Jewish. Your religion is completely irrelevant.

Dino has told us to trust him, he's definitely done the research that he refuses to cite.

You did not cite - the one you cited was about mother’s religion at time of your birth.

Interesting that the article never talked about religion.

But why would birth mothers matter if it was all about religion? Why would whether your mom is Jewish matter if the only thing that makes you Jewish is your religion?

Posted by dino27 on 6/24/2021 1:00:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by dino27 on 6/24/2021 12:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/24/2021 12:16:00 PM (view original):
Dino is once again confused as to the difference between Judaism and being Jewish.

I'm not a part of the Jewish religion. I don't follow Judaism.

I am still Jewish.

Trying to switch rapidly between the two to look like you're making a point is very sneaky and dishonest.

You are lying again. You can’t be Jewish if you are not a Jew except maybe in some limited sense which is why I am consulting rabbis.

I am saying only Jews are Jewish.
you are playing more silly word games.

So Jewish as a heritage/ethnicity doesn't exist?

Is this the argument you're going with now?

If so, I guess if you convert to Judaism you are 100% a part of the Jewish people then. Nothing to do with your birth.

Correct - one who converts to Judaism is same as someone born Jewish. I know a rabbi that is a convert.

So you would agree with this statement: "The Jewish heritage/ethnicity doesn't exist. The only thing that matters is religion."

And if this is true, CCCP isn't Jewish either. He's agnostic.

Posted by dino27 on 6/24/2021 12:52:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 6/24/2021 12:45:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 6/24/2021 12:39:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 6/24/2021 12:34:00 PM (view original):
Jeesh Dino, did you really expect a small Gift Certificate to cause me to suspend my intellect just so's we could be Forum "pals"???

I think you're a cheapass manipulator of truth who thinks he can buy a friend.
I think you should get a love doll.
Or a really dumb dog.

A dog doesn't care what an *** you are, they'll still smell your *** if you let em.
And you can call the dog your friend, and even verbally abuse them, but they'll still TRY and love you.
I suspect with you some Dogs might have difficulty though.
Some will likely prefer the odds at the local dog pound.

You are not a pal and I think you were a dumb idiot for hating trump in 16 but voting third party.
fact is I don’t like you and I don’t care what you think of me.

that’s why I ignore you unless you attack me or the Jewish people.

I voted for HRC in 2016. And Biden in 2020. So you're wrong as per usual.

And YOU don't even know me (or anyone on here) so your "dislike" matters absolutlely squat to ANYONE.
Hate away Dino.
That's what crazy people do. Hate everybody who has a differing view of things.
And, of course, that's what haters and bigots and the Aryans do!
Good to know you're one of them.
Thanks for letting us all know.

You previously said you voted third party in the general election 2016.

I previously openly supported Gary Johnson.......... right until it came to cast the vote, the media CLAIMED HRC was within the margin of polling error, and my wife and both daughters begged me to vote for HRC just in case Arizona's electoral votes were in play. I held my nose and voted HRC.

The media/polls were wrong. HRC lost by a wide wide margin. The AZ electoral votes were never in play. I now believe my vote for HRC was a mistake.
I stand by my vote for Biden because (thankfully) a majority of Americans just wanted Trump out, for a myriad of reasons. Perhaps, much like Bebe N?

I hope and pray Biden is a way way better POTUS than I dare to expect.
For me, he's a caretaker of a sacred object. Our Nation's best interests.
May HE walk in beauty.
Thanks for voting in our elections.

I'm scornful of ALL these grey distinctions about purity. BUT, IF I understand things correctly. Dino's view is that Jeff Tweedy is Jewish.
I do know that He converted to Judaism but I didn't know that that changed his ethnicity and made him a Jew.

Oh well, these days is these days.
What do I have to do to become Paiute?
I think IF I marry an Apache my children will BE Apache.
Because I would live with my wife's clan, and thus the children would be raised Apache.
That's like Jewishness, I reckon.
Semantics is all it is to me.

I don't care if Tweedy is a martian. I think he's a pure musical savant.

Posted by dino27 on 6/24/2021 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Hopefully you are asking these questions in good faith.

you seem to be against my consulting experts who know more then I do.

there are people who know more than you do??? I'm shocked!

Me too!!!

Wow, looks like dino (rightfully) got banned/suspended.

Twas a shame.

He was doing such a good job digging his own grave.

Guess we'll never learn more about "Jewish Law."

Posted by laramiebob on 6/24/2021 3:01:00 PM (view original):
I'm scornful of ALL these grey distinctions about purity. BUT, IF I understand things correctly. Dino's view is that Jeff Tweedy is Jewish.
I do know that He converted to Judaism but I didn't know that that changed his ethnicity and made him a Jew.

Oh well, these days is these days.
What do I have to do to become Paiute?
I think IF I marry an Apache my children will BE Apache.
Because I would live with my wife's clan, and thus the children would be raised Apache.
That's like Jewishness, I reckon.
Semantics is all it is to me.

I don't care if Tweedy is a martian. I think he's a pure musical savant.

Wilco (and Uncle Tupelo) rocks!

Have you ever heard the story Tweedy sometimes tells about converting to Judaism?? It's hilarious.......... there's a section that deals with circumcision.
It's on a live piece I've heard somewhere. Next time I hear it I'll make a note and let you know where you can find it.

Nope, never heard it

Posted by wylie715 on 6/25/2021 5:42:00 PM (view original):
Nope, never heard it

So, with some help from the better half of the family I remembered where I heard this story Wylie. It was on an NPR weekend game show.

Here's the link:

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/30/865664871/not-my-job-jeff-tweedy

Enjoy!

Posted by bronxcheer on 6/2/2021 6:25:00 PM (view original):
Maybe now Biden will cut thug nation Israel off and fully embrace Palestine as he should!

That would usher in the destruction of America.. but the Palestinians, they are so peaceful.

Posted by lostnfound74 on 6/26/2021 9:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bronxcheer on 6/2/2021 6:25:00 PM (view original):
Maybe now Biden will cut thug nation Israel off and fully embrace Palestine as he should!

That would usher in the destruction of America.. but the Palestinians, they are so peaceful.

The destruction of America. Really.