But the contrarian view to that take is if there is only one recruiting session and you arent available then you are SOL for one or several seasons.

Can somebody explain what’s going on? Recruiting is my favorite part of the game, but it’s definitely very flawed

Posted by ab90 on 9/21/2021 6:13:00 PM (view original):
One, it's an increased time commitment that is especially difficult for users with many teams.
Two, it is impossible to recruit when changing to a D1, which has the unintended consequence of keeping people at lower levels while many D1's remain vacant.
Three, it eliminates the mystique.
Recruiting at the end of the season felt like Christmas morning. Now, recruiting just feels like a hurry to open as many packages as possible lest you be left holding wrapping paper come the start of Period 2.

One, if it's too much of an issue for someone after at least 5 real life years of doing it, realize it. And cut back on teams.

Two, the HD community puts WAY too much emphasis on first season expectations. When taking over a new school, who cares if you can't jump right up to the top recruiting class? It's your first season! Just prepare yourself to go sign an impact class in season 2. I don't think one single coach stays in the lower levels due to thoughts of "I don't want to play D1 because my very first season might be tough". That's silly. Also, they "apparently" are currently looking into ways to make RS2 "better" in that regard.

Three, I can see why YOU specifically feel this way. You mainly play D2/D3 which is fine. I think D2/D3 does kinda feel that way now. And that's because CS has tried to make D1 the focal point now. D1 coaches don't really deal with this because they sign a lot of their roster in RS1. A way to combat feeling this way would be to recruit from the D2 pool from D2. Maybe that doesn't sound ideal on the surface, especially for D2 coaches that have signed D1 pool players for a long time now. But the changes in the game have caused many D2 coaches to look in the D2 pool now. Which I believe is the intentions of CS

Posted by georgerollin on 9/22/2021 9:24:00 AM (view original):

Posted by ab90 on 9/21/2021 6:13:00 PM (view original):
One, it's an increased time commitment that is especially difficult for users with many teams.
Two, it is impossible to recruit when changing to a D1, which has the unintended consequence of keeping people at lower levels while many D1's remain vacant.
Three, it eliminates the mystique.
Recruiting at the end of the season felt like Christmas morning. Now, recruiting just feels like a hurry to open as many packages as possible lest you be left holding wrapping paper come the start of Period 2.

Nobody cares what a cherry picker has to say on the subject

For somebody who doesn’t care, you seem to ride people’s dicks a lot

Bunch of good takes here.

I'm honestly starting to wonder if Sinai is possibly an ab90 alternate account.

Reasoning....
1) similar worlds played.
2) a couple of the same teams in different worlds. Like A&M Commerce and Chadron I think it was.
3) both are pretty solid coaches. As much as ab90 gets pushback, he is at least decent. And Sinai has good success in a early career.
4) posting in the same threads. Sinai isn't necessarily "defending" ab90, but he's chastising big George. And regarding ab90, I feel like his forum posts are more geared towards "poking the bear" than they are for anything else. He doesn't really come here to socialize with us who participate. At least I've never felt that way. He knows he's a villain of sorts.

I also had one more point but can't remember. Thoughts anyone?

Posted by topdogggbm on 9/22/2021 4:28:00 PM (view original):
I'm honestly starting to wonder if Sinai is possibly an ab90 alternate account.

Reasoning....
1) similar worlds played.
2) a couple of the same teams in different worlds. Like A&M Commerce and Chadron I think it was.
3) both are pretty solid coaches. As much as ab90 gets pushback, he is at least decent. And Sinai has good success in a early career.
4) posting in the same threads. Sinai isn't necessarily "defending" ab90, but he's chastising big George. And regarding ab90, I feel like his forum posts are more geared towards "poking the bear" than they are for anything else. He doesn't really come here to socialize with us who participate. At least I've never felt that way. He knows he's a villain of sorts.

I also had one more point but can't remember. Thoughts anyone?

I think 5 would be that they use the same team hopping strategy which is used by very few coaches that are in as many worlds. I had the same thought reading this thread earlier today.

"Two, it is impossible to recruit when changing to a D1, which has the unintended consequence of keeping people at lower levels while many D1's remain vacant."

Uh, have you seen the d1 populations lately? They're doing just fine

I am not aware of any serious discussion in recent years of getting rid of the two stages of recruiting. This isnt a pending possible change. Not the droids you are looking for

Posted by texashick on 9/22/2021 5:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by topdogggbm on 9/22/2021 4:28:00 PM (view original):
I'm honestly starting to wonder if Sinai is possibly an ab90 alternate account.

Reasoning....
1) similar worlds played.
2) a couple of the same teams in different worlds. Like A&M Commerce and Chadron I think it was.
3) both are pretty solid coaches. As much as ab90 gets pushback, he is at least decent. And Sinai has good success in a early career.
4) posting in the same threads. Sinai isn't necessarily "defending" ab90, but he's chastising big George. And regarding ab90, I feel like his forum posts are more geared towards "poking the bear" than they are for anything else. He doesn't really come here to socialize with us who participate. At least I've never felt that way. He knows he's a villain of sorts.

I also had one more point but can't remember. Thoughts anyone?

I think 5 would be that they use the same team hopping strategy which is used by very few coaches that are in as many worlds. I had the same thought reading this thread earlier today.

I was kinda going there with #3 but not as direct as you were.

And the two of us aren't the only ones that thought this! Also for #4 I should've said...... "Posting ONLY in the same threads". I left out that key word

AB90 - were you hear for 2.0? I don’t understand how you can think that 3.0 recruiting is MORE of a time commitment than 2.0. That’s just….insane. Off the top of my head, 2.0 had -

1) cycles every 3 hours.
2) no ‘greens’….you had to manually track who has high-highs by reading ALL scouting emails.
3) you had to read all emails to know where you stood with a recruit.
4) less advance time to scout, so once recruiting opened it was a mad rush.

there are some things I miss about 2.0 (crazy emails, tips from girlfriends, the FSS telling you once every 12 hours who was in the lead). But 3.0 is definitely less of a time commitment per team.

Posted by getbedarded on 9/23/2021 12:44:00 AM (view original):
AB90 - were you hear for 2.0? I don’t understand how you can think that 3.0 recruiting is MORE of a time commitment than 2.0. That’s just….insane. Off the top of my head, 2.0 had -

1) cycles every 3 hours.
2) no ‘greens’….you had to manually track who has high-highs by reading ALL scouting emails.
3) you had to read all emails to know where you stood with a recruit.
4) less advance time to scout, so once recruiting opened it was a mad rush.

there are some things I miss about 2.0 (crazy emails, tips from girlfriends, the FSS telling you once every 12 hours who was in the lead). But 3.0 is definitely less of a time commitment per team.

I’ve run across a number of coaches who insist on figuring out how many resources all their rivals have, and what recruits they’re on during recruiting. I’m sure it is more time consuming if you’re still trying to play 2.0 in this system, since 3.0 was trying to discourage folks from getting bogged down in all that stuff, so took away the mechanisms for us to see it and track it.

I like early recruiting. Would be totally against any change.