Posted by dahsdebater on 11/25/2021 10:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 8:41:00 AM (view original):
I respectfully disagree. Evolution is NOT a fact. It is a theory. It cannot be proven by any observational standard and therefore by the creed of science itself, can never be more than a theory.

This IS a hill I will die on. Should you wish to have a discussion....you know where to find me.

Happy Thanksgiving.

False. We have observed plenty of evolution, even things that might be considered macroevolution.

MRSA didn't exist until the 1960s.

As a result of poaching, African elephant populations are dramatically altered from only a few decades ago. Females without tusks are exploding in population in spite of the fact that this gene is deadly to male offspring. The mechanism here is obvious and the results are both predictable and undeniably occurring.

I'm leaving for dinner.
I will say I understand why you might think the way you do. I did the same before I became more informed on the matter.
I look forward to the coming discussions on genetic drift, DNA, proteins and enzymes, linear equations and mathematical probability, amino acids, oxidation, uv rays and all things related to the subject we are about to discuss.
Have a great thanksgiving everyone.

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/25/2021 10:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 8:41:00 AM (view original):
I respectfully disagree. Evolution is NOT a fact. It is a theory. It cannot be proven by any observational standard and therefore by the creed of science itself, can never be more than a theory.

This IS a hill I will die on. Should you wish to have a discussion....you know where to find me.

Happy Thanksgiving.

False. We have observed plenty of evolution, even things that might be considered macroevolution.

MRSA didn't exist until the 1960s.

As a result of poaching, African elephant populations are dramatically altered from only a few decades ago. Females without tusks are exploding in population in spite of the fact that this gene is deadly to male offspring. The mechanism here is obvious and the results are both predictable and undeniably occurring.

I mean, we literally bred dogs into tons of different species. How someone can claim that evolution is improbable or impossible is absurd.

Gravity is also a theory.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYBODY!!!

Posted by Uofa2 on 11/25/2021 2:10:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 11/24/2021 8:36:00 PM (view original):
You have been brainwashed. Systematically brainwashed. Who is blind except for the man who refuses to believe on God's revelation of truth?

Ever consider that maybe it is YOU who has been brainwashed? I would never say your opinion is wrong because i don't know. You seem to have no problem telling others h=that their opinion is wrong.

??

not sure what you are questioning, dude

Posted by tangplay on 11/25/2021 12:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/25/2021 10:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 8:41:00 AM (view original):
I respectfully disagree. Evolution is NOT a fact. It is a theory. It cannot be proven by any observational standard and therefore by the creed of science itself, can never be more than a theory.

This IS a hill I will die on. Should you wish to have a discussion....you know where to find me.

Happy Thanksgiving.

False. We have observed plenty of evolution, even things that might be considered macroevolution.

MRSA didn't exist until the 1960s.

As a result of poaching, African elephant populations are dramatically altered from only a few decades ago. Females without tusks are exploding in population in spite of the fact that this gene is deadly to male offspring. The mechanism here is obvious and the results are both predictable and undeniably occurring.

I mean, we literally bred dogs into tons of different species. How someone can claim that evolution is improbable or impossible is absurd.

Gravity is also a theory.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYBODY!!!

+1. And a nod to you Tangy......your thread is over 100 pages strong and lately is the go to thread for good discussion!
Enjoy a good piece of meat..........or some good collered greens if you must. But enjoy the day!

Posted by tangplay on 11/25/2021 12:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/25/2021 10:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 8:41:00 AM (view original):
I respectfully disagree. Evolution is NOT a fact. It is a theory. It cannot be proven by any observational standard and therefore by the creed of science itself, can never be more than a theory.

This IS a hill I will die on. Should you wish to have a discussion....you know where to find me.

Happy Thanksgiving.

False. We have observed plenty of evolution, even things that might be considered macroevolution.

MRSA didn't exist until the 1960s.

As a result of poaching, African elephant populations are dramatically altered from only a few decades ago. Females without tusks are exploding in population in spite of the fact that this gene is deadly to male offspring. The mechanism here is obvious and the results are both predictable and undeniably occurring.

I mean, we literally bred dogs into tons of different species. How someone can claim that evolution is improbable or impossible is absurd.

Gravity is also a theory.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYBODY!!!

I'll unblock this post by tang to make a point.

I agree there are many different breeds of dog (canine) but never a different species. A dog is still a dog. A dog will never be a cat. A cat will never be a monkey. A monkey will never be a man.

The mistake here is incorrectly confusing species with more general delineations such as kingdom, phylum, class, order, family and genus.

Posted by Uofa2 on 11/23/2021 4:46:00 AM (view original):

The sudden appearance of about 40 armed men outside a Dallas-area restaurant this weekend was the latest confrontation between an open-carry gun-rights group and a mothers group advocating gun control that was meeting inside. Shannon Watts, founder of the national gun control organization, said the mothers were holding a private meeting — not a rally — at the restaurant. She founded her group in the wake of the killings in Newtown, Conn. The Open Carry Texas (OCT) contingent, which included men, women and children, were armed with about two dozen semi-automatic rifles, which are classified as long guns in Texas and can be legally carried openly. The two groups have been at odds since the mothers group successfully lobbied Starbucks to ban the open carrying of weapons in its coffee shops.

Police monitored the incident at the Blue Mesa Grill in Arlington, Texas, but took no action because it is legal to carry long guns openly in Texas.

it’s a super world we’re creating here

flash mobs are democratic

lets all go down to the macy's

the federal courthouse

the framed new house down the street

the private family planning and christian science reading room

the mexican restaurant

the boat ramp

the lobby o the bon soir hotel



bring your popcorn and your poppers

there will be movies made

we will all be stars

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 7:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 11/25/2021 12:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/25/2021 10:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 8:41:00 AM (view original):
I respectfully disagree. Evolution is NOT a fact. It is a theory. It cannot be proven by any observational standard and therefore by the creed of science itself, can never be more than a theory.

This IS a hill I will die on. Should you wish to have a discussion....you know where to find me.

Happy Thanksgiving.

False. We have observed plenty of evolution, even things that might be considered macroevolution.

MRSA didn't exist until the 1960s.

As a result of poaching, African elephant populations are dramatically altered from only a few decades ago. Females without tusks are exploding in population in spite of the fact that this gene is deadly to male offspring. The mechanism here is obvious and the results are both predictable and undeniably occurring.

I mean, we literally bred dogs into tons of different species. How someone can claim that evolution is improbable or impossible is absurd.

Gravity is also a theory.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYBODY!!!

I'll unblock this post by tang to make a point.

I agree there are many different breeds of dog (canine) but never a different species. A dog is still a dog. A dog will never be a cat. A cat will never be a monkey. A monkey will never be a man.

The mistake here is incorrectly confusing species with more general delineations such as kingdom, phylum, class, order, family and genus.

It's possible to evolve different breeds but over a long enough timeframe, completely impossible to evolve different species?

Also a reminder that evolution does not say humans evolved from modern-day monkeys, it says humans and monkeys had the same evolutionary ancestor, which is why we share so much DNA.

I once had a cat that thought it was a dog.

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 12:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/25/2021 10:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 8:41:00 AM (view original):
I respectfully disagree. Evolution is NOT a fact. It is a theory. It cannot be proven by any observational standard and therefore by the creed of science itself, can never be more than a theory.

This IS a hill I will die on. Should you wish to have a discussion....you know where to find me.

Happy Thanksgiving.

False. We have observed plenty of evolution, even things that might be considered macroevolution.

MRSA didn't exist until the 1960s.

As a result of poaching, African elephant populations are dramatically altered from only a few decades ago. Females without tusks are exploding in population in spite of the fact that this gene is deadly to male offspring. The mechanism here is obvious and the results are both predictable and undeniably occurring.

I'm leaving for dinner.
I will say I understand why you might think the way you do. I did the same before I became more informed on the matter.
I look forward to the coming discussions on genetic drift, DNA, proteins and enzymes, linear equations and mathematical probability, amino acids, oxidation, uv rays and all things related to the subject we are about to discuss.
Have a great thanksgiving everyone.

I hope you had a good dinner. We eat ours at our normal dinner time (7:30-8). We also still aren't getting together with broader family. My 5-month-old has some heart defects which are not serious at all, the cardiologists cleared her for basically normal activity but we're supposed to follow up before she joins any contact sports. Even so, we're being a little extra-careful with exposure. In a few weeks she can get a flu shot, which will help.

Is this just a list of vaguely related jargon you found to try to intimidate me out of the conversation? What do UV rays have to do with evolution? I've been pretty clear about this, but nobody reads everything, so I'll just ask... you know I'm a working scientist, right?

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 7:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 11/25/2021 12:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/25/2021 10:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 8:41:00 AM (view original):
I respectfully disagree. Evolution is NOT a fact. It is a theory. It cannot be proven by any observational standard and therefore by the creed of science itself, can never be more than a theory.

This IS a hill I will die on. Should you wish to have a discussion....you know where to find me.

Happy Thanksgiving.

False. We have observed plenty of evolution, even things that might be considered macroevolution.

MRSA didn't exist until the 1960s.

As a result of poaching, African elephant populations are dramatically altered from only a few decades ago. Females without tusks are exploding in population in spite of the fact that this gene is deadly to male offspring. The mechanism here is obvious and the results are both predictable and undeniably occurring.

I mean, we literally bred dogs into tons of different species. How someone can claim that evolution is improbable or impossible is absurd.

Gravity is also a theory.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYBODY!!!

I'll unblock this post by tang to make a point.

I agree there are many different breeds of dog (canine) but never a different species. A dog is still a dog. A dog will never be a cat. A cat will never be a monkey. A monkey will never be a man.

The mistake here is incorrectly confusing species with more general delineations such as kingdom, phylum, class, order, family and genus.

This is both true and not true. Humans domesticated wolves and then bred the resulting domestic dogs into a variety of breeds. All of those breeds are the same species. They are not the same species as wolves. Likewise, domestic horses, cattle, and cats are all different species from their wild ancestors.

Posted by wylie715 on 11/25/2021 1:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Uofa2 on 11/25/2021 2:10:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 11/24/2021 8:36:00 PM (view original):
You have been brainwashed. Systematically brainwashed. Who is blind except for the man who refuses to believe on God's revelation of truth?

Ever consider that maybe it is YOU who has been brainwashed? I would never say your opinion is wrong because i don't know. You seem to have no problem telling others h=that their opinion is wrong.

??

not sure what you are questioning, dude

Hahah oh man so sorry, ******* fat fingers on this one

it was supposed to be !!

as in emphasizing your point.

that’s on me buddy, my bad

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/26/2021 12:50:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 12:40:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/25/2021 10:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 8:41:00 AM (view original):
I respectfully disagree. Evolution is NOT a fact. It is a theory. It cannot be proven by any observational standard and therefore by the creed of science itself, can never be more than a theory.

This IS a hill I will die on. Should you wish to have a discussion....you know where to find me.

Happy Thanksgiving.

False. We have observed plenty of evolution, even things that might be considered macroevolution.

MRSA didn't exist until the 1960s.

As a result of poaching, African elephant populations are dramatically altered from only a few decades ago. Females without tusks are exploding in population in spite of the fact that this gene is deadly to male offspring. The mechanism here is obvious and the results are both predictable and undeniably occurring.

I'm leaving for dinner.
I will say I understand why you might think the way you do. I did the same before I became more informed on the matter.
I look forward to the coming discussions on genetic drift, DNA, proteins and enzymes, linear equations and mathematical probability, amino acids, oxidation, uv rays and all things related to the subject we are about to discuss.
Have a great thanksgiving everyone.

I hope you had a good dinner. We eat ours at our normal dinner time (7:30-8). We also still aren't getting together with broader family. My 5-month-old has some heart defects which are not serious at all, the cardiologists cleared her for basically normal activity but we're supposed to follow up before she joins any contact sports. Even so, we're being a little extra-careful with exposure. In a few weeks she can get a flu shot, which will help.

Is this just a list of vaguely related jargon you found to try to intimidate me out of the conversation? What do UV rays have to do with evolution? I've been pretty clear about this, but nobody reads everything, so I'll just ask... you know I'm a working scientist, right?

Lol

Posted by wylie715 on 11/25/2021 11:48:00 PM (view original):
I once had a cat that thought it was a dog.

I had a dog that thought He was a human.

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 7:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 11/25/2021 12:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/25/2021 10:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 8:41:00 AM (view original):
I respectfully disagree. Evolution is NOT a fact. It is a theory. It cannot be proven by any observational standard and therefore by the creed of science itself, can never be more than a theory.

This IS a hill I will die on. Should you wish to have a discussion....you know where to find me.

Happy Thanksgiving.

False. We have observed plenty of evolution, even things that might be considered macroevolution.

MRSA didn't exist until the 1960s.

As a result of poaching, African elephant populations are dramatically altered from only a few decades ago. Females without tusks are exploding in population in spite of the fact that this gene is deadly to male offspring. The mechanism here is obvious and the results are both predictable and undeniably occurring.

I mean, we literally bred dogs into tons of different species. How someone can claim that evolution is improbable or impossible is absurd.

Gravity is also a theory.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYBODY!!!

I'll unblock this post by tang to make a point.

I agree there are many different breeds of dog (canine) but never a different species. A dog is still a dog. A dog will never be a cat. A cat will never be a monkey. A monkey will never be a man.

The mistake here is incorrectly confusing species with more general delineations such as kingdom, phylum, class, order, family and genus.

Better get back to blocking I guess because your point is invalid.
It's just flat incorrect.

You ARE going to die on this hill.
Evolution is everywhere. Even in you, but likely marginally because YOU are so against growth.

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 7:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 11/25/2021 12:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dahsdebater on 11/25/2021 10:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 11/25/2021 8:41:00 AM (view original):
I respectfully disagree. Evolution is NOT a fact. It is a theory. It cannot be proven by any observational standard and therefore by the creed of science itself, can never be more than a theory.

This IS a hill I will die on. Should you wish to have a discussion....you know where to find me.

Happy Thanksgiving.

False. We have observed plenty of evolution, even things that might be considered macroevolution.

MRSA didn't exist until the 1960s.

As a result of poaching, African elephant populations are dramatically altered from only a few decades ago. Females without tusks are exploding in population in spite of the fact that this gene is deadly to male offspring. The mechanism here is obvious and the results are both predictable and undeniably occurring.

I mean, we literally bred dogs into tons of different species. How someone can claim that evolution is improbable or impossible is absurd.

Gravity is also a theory.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING, EVERYBODY!!!

I'll unblock this post by tang to make a point.

I agree there are many different breeds of dog (canine) but never a different species. A dog is still a dog. A dog will never be a cat. A cat will never be a monkey. A monkey will never be a man.

The mistake here is incorrectly confusing species with more general delineations such as kingdom, phylum, class, order, family and genus.

This is funny. I love the meter.