Disappointed in my World 5 team. Hoping out of division play helps them get their act together.

It makes me sad to see Derrick Favors languishing in OKC - at only 30 years old. Barely playing, and about to leave the rotation. Let's get him back on a real team already! And I say this as a Thunder fan.

My 4th and 5th teams are doing what I need from them - both hovering around .500 and contending for a playoff spot. But my 1st and 3rd teams have been putrid, both sitting at 8-13. My 12-13 Lebron team is in 5th place in a bad division and is 1-10 on the road. It has to be the worst 12-13 Lebron team anyone has ever built in this format. And it was supposed to be a stacked team!

The common thread in my teams' struggles is turnovers, but even given that I am mystified at how bad that 12-13 Lebron team has been.

Posted by tarheel1991 on 12/6/2021 8:47:00 AM (view original):
My 4th and 5th teams are doing what I need from them - both hovering around .500 and contending for a playoff spot. But my 1st and 3rd teams have been putrid, both sitting at 8-13. My 12-13 Lebron team is in 5th place in a bad division and is 1-10 on the road. It has to be the worst 12-13 Lebron team anyone has ever built in this format. And it was supposed to be a stacked team!

The common thread in my teams' struggles is turnovers, but even given that I am mystified at how bad that 12-13 Lebron team has been.

I think you got the right diagnosis. Your teams are the 7th worst in turnovers and 7th worst in rebounding. I have a possession battle differential metric I use (blend of rebounding, turnover and foul differential), and out of 120 teams, yours rank:
51st (W5)
81st (W1)
91st (W2)
105th (W4)
117th (W3)

It is still really early in the season and you still have LeBron. Plenty of time to turn it around. I still have faith. Just wanted to share something you could use in case you want to shuffle anything around.

I think we will know a lot more about all the teams and divisions after the first round of out of conference play.

Posted by robusk on 12/6/2021 9:02:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tarheel1991 on 12/6/2021 8:47:00 AM (view original):
My 4th and 5th teams are doing what I need from them - both hovering around .500 and contending for a playoff spot. But my 1st and 3rd teams have been putrid, both sitting at 8-13. My 12-13 Lebron team is in 5th place in a bad division and is 1-10 on the road. It has to be the worst 12-13 Lebron team anyone has ever built in this format. And it was supposed to be a stacked team!

The common thread in my teams' struggles is turnovers, but even given that I am mystified at how bad that 12-13 Lebron team has been.

I think you got the right diagnosis. Your teams are the 7th worst in turnovers and 7th worst in rebounding. I have a possession battle differential metric I use (blend of rebounding, turnover and foul differential), and out of 120 teams, yours rank:
51st (W5)
81st (W1)
91st (W2)
105th (W4)
117th (W3)

It is still really early in the season and you still have LeBron. Plenty of time to turn it around. I still have faith. Just wanted to share something you could use in case you want to shuffle anything around.

Thanks, that is helpful. Unfortunately I didn't give myself much in the way of backup plans.

I expected some of my teams to be pretty middling in terms of rebounding. But not the teams in Worlds 3 and 4! The world 3 team, in particular, is over 140% CRB in the starting lineup. The backups definitely bring that down, but I still can't figure out why that team is struggling on the glass. Giving up over 15 ORB per game despite over 100% DRB in the starting lineup.

Posted by tarheel1991 on 12/6/2021 11:13:00 AM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 12/6/2021 9:02:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tarheel1991 on 12/6/2021 8:47:00 AM (view original):
My 4th and 5th teams are doing what I need from them - both hovering around .500 and contending for a playoff spot. But my 1st and 3rd teams have been putrid, both sitting at 8-13. My 12-13 Lebron team is in 5th place in a bad division and is 1-10 on the road. It has to be the worst 12-13 Lebron team anyone has ever built in this format. And it was supposed to be a stacked team!

The common thread in my teams' struggles is turnovers, but even given that I am mystified at how bad that 12-13 Lebron team has been.

I think you got the right diagnosis. Your teams are the 7th worst in turnovers and 7th worst in rebounding. I have a possession battle differential metric I use (blend of rebounding, turnover and foul differential), and out of 120 teams, yours rank:
51st (W5)
81st (W1)
91st (W2)
105th (W4)
117th (W3)

It is still really early in the season and you still have LeBron. Plenty of time to turn it around. I still have faith. Just wanted to share something you could use in case you want to shuffle anything around.

Thanks, that is helpful. Unfortunately I didn't give myself much in the way of backup plans.

I expected some of my teams to be pretty middling in terms of rebounding. But not the teams in Worlds 3 and 4! The world 3 team, in particular, is over 140% CRB in the starting lineup. The backups definitely bring that down, but I still can't figure out why that team is struggling on the glass. Giving up over 15 ORB per game despite over 100% DRB in the starting lineup.

I think it is two things:
1) Really god awful bench rebounding
2) 6 out of the 7 best overall Savage rebounding squads (aggregated) by Creb% (albiband0, benhoidal, jkaye24, 20ks, beloud and NotoriousJ) are all in the same conference as you, which is impacting the heft of your raw %'s

i have achieved perfect balanced mediocrity...all 5 teams are 16-15

Posted by dh555 on 12/11/2021 2:33:00 AM (view original):
i have achieved perfect balanced mediocrity...all 5 teams are 16-15

That is majestic.

Random musings:

- Different that previous seasons, the drivers of success this season seem to be passing and defense. The top 10 is really crowded by mostly the elite assist% and def teams

- Rebounding is not the super power it was in previous seasons

- Turnovers and threes not much of an indicator of success this season

- Schedule luck is king

- Newbies doing super well this season

- Some teams I thought would be awesome are not what I expected and I haven't totally figured out why

Division records so far:

5 Atlantic	126	102
3 Midwest	124	104
1 Central	120	108
4 Pacific	120	108
1 Atlantic	118	110
2 Central	117	111
2 Pacific	117	111
5 Pacific	115	113
3 Central	115	113
4 Central	114	114
2 Atlantic	113	115
4 Atlantic	111	117
4 Midwest	111	117
5 Midwest	110	118
1 Pacific	110	118
3 Pacific	110	118
2 Midwest	109	119
1 Midwest	108	138
3 Atlantic	107	121
5 Central	105	123

Rob is killing it! .760 win percentage in the last 50 games

who's gonna step up and hand this man some Ls???

Meh. I’m on a home heavy stretch. I’ll lose plenty and will have a brutal last 10 cycles. I wouldn’t read too much into this stretch.

I thought I would have 2 very good teams, 1 pretty good team, 1 slightly sub mediocre team, a 1 dumpster fire.


I was only right about the dumpster fire.

It's often a crapshoot it feels like. I have one team that is way worse than the others, but it is definitely not the team I thought it would be.