Posted by Midge on 6/11/2022 10:33:00 PM (view original):
I’m looking forward to seeing how raggedclaws’ team does. I don’t think I have the guts to try that, but it sure if fun to watch someone else do it.

And yes, I’m still talking about basketball.

I've been pretty happy with the process - I didn't go in planning on ignoring the expensive slots, but being near the end of the first was a factor, and so is that for a few rounds now I've had two or three permutations of top slot guys I'd be happy to roll with so I haven't felt rushed. We'll see if the pair that I've penciled in makes it back to me.

Still it might turn out that it's tough to compete without big minutes from the elite guys, that's what makes it fun.

There is so much more talent at the lower levels than there was the last time we did this.

@Reeldeal01

I can now tell you that my proxy list to Midge was:
1 Robert Williams $4-5M
2. Bradon Clarke $3-4

I wanted borh of them, so I gambled that Williams would still be available if I went ahead and took Clarke.
$4-5 Vanderbilt was my backup plan to Williamd

Thanks Milest

chewy, thanks again for the spreadsheet, that is good stuff.

Maybe it’s just me, but I am somewhat surprised that we zipped all the way from 8 to 11 without a single Dr. J sighting.

Posted by Midge on 6/12/2022 4:19:00 PM (view original):
chewy, thanks again for the spreadsheet, that is good stuff.

Maybe it’s just me, but I am somewhat surprised that we zipped all the way from 8 to 11 without a single Dr. J sighting.

I was expecting to see him.

Lots of good teams at a glance. I'll probably try to do some evals eventually.

In case anyone else is doing evals, Kevin Durant plays SG at 97%. Robert Williams plays SF at 97%. Everything else should be evident.

Posted by milest on 6/12/2022 4:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Midge on 6/12/2022 4:19:00 PM (view original):
chewy, thanks again for the spreadsheet, that is good stuff.

Maybe it’s just me, but I am somewhat surprised that we zipped all the way from 8 to 11 without a single Dr. J sighting.

I was expecting to see him.

I also thought Bill Russell would go. Thought about taking him myself

Bill Russell 9-11 and Tim Duncan 9-11…..it makes you think.

Posted by Midge on 6/12/2022 5:53:00 PM (view original):
Bill Russell 9-11 and Tim Duncan 9-11…..it makes you think.

Russell's FG% is probably too much of a liability in this environment. See one Duncan season that might be OK, but still, too much usage for the FG%

I have experienced a few decade draft leagues, 2 ODLs, and 1 savage draft. Each have some unique variables in the drafting methodology but here are my thoughts. A 24 hour pick deadline is only effective when you have multiple quick drafters and only a handful that regularly use more than 4 hours. A flat time limit such as 20 minutes, 30 minutes, or an hour doesn’t seem fair in the current environment once the person in front of you picks. The 30 minutes or hour time limit would work if we had pre scheduled 30 minute or 1 hour time slots like the DDL drafts. You may not have time to check the site and keep up with picks, but you could at least check in around the time of your pick to see if your targets have been taken or not.
With the pre scheduled time slots, it will help the anxious people from clicking refresh 100s of times a day constantly to see if anything has moved. The draft wont have the potential to move as quickly as possible, but the draft pace floor would be faster. Also, with the time slots, if someone is skipped, usually it’s pretty hard to fall behind by more than a few spots unless you completely check out or are busy for hours on end and can’t do any research. This should eliminate the issue about competitive balance. One thing that DDL does that seems a little underhanded in spirit is the rule about being able to pick as long as the person in front of you has picked. I’m general this works well to keep things moving for those who can pick quickly, but if someone gets skipped, this allows people to really bury the person who get skipped. I think we could stick to the pre scheduled time slots and only make early picks if the person in front of you has picked and no one is skipped in front of you.
If we don’t use pre- scheduled time slots, I think a 1, 2, or 4 hour time limit is reasonable given that these are generally used on the national fantasy football and baseball slow drafts The NFC is a sister brand under the sports hub games network that what if sports belongs to.
What would truly be awesome is if what if sports could borrow some people from NFC to help write draft room code so we could use a real legit draft room for these theme drafts.
Please feel free to completely ignore any and or everything I have written. I have only been playing this game for a year and a half and am still a novice compared to most of you.
I just wanted to offer some thoughts so Midge can take it all and figure out if he wants to make any changes in the future.

Posted by chewy3344 on 6/12/2022 9:39:00 PM (view original):
I have experienced a few decade draft leagues, 2 ODLs, and 1 savage draft. Each have some unique variables in the drafting methodology but here are my thoughts. A 24 hour pick deadline is only effective when you have multiple quick drafters and only a handful that regularly use more than 4 hours. A flat time limit such as 20 minutes, 30 minutes, or an hour doesn’t seem fair in the current environment once the person in front of you picks. The 30 minutes or hour time limit would work if we had pre scheduled 30 minute or 1 hour time slots like the DDL drafts. You may not have time to check the site and keep up with picks, but you could at least check in around the time of your pick to see if your targets have been taken or not.
With the pre scheduled time slots, it will help the anxious people from clicking refresh 100s of times a day constantly to see if anything has moved. The draft wont have the potential to move as quickly as possible, but the draft pace floor would be faster. Also, with the time slots, if someone is skipped, usually it’s pretty hard to fall behind by more than a few spots unless you completely check out or are busy for hours on end and can’t do any research. This should eliminate the issue about competitive balance. One thing that DDL does that seems a little underhanded in spirit is the rule about being able to pick as long as the person in front of you has picked. I’m general this works well to keep things moving for those who can pick quickly, but if someone gets skipped, this allows people to really bury the person who get skipped. I think we could stick to the pre scheduled time slots and only make early picks if the person in front of you has picked and no one is skipped in front of you.
If we don’t use pre- scheduled time slots, I think a 1, 2, or 4 hour time limit is reasonable given that these are generally used on the national fantasy football and baseball slow drafts The NFC is a sister brand under the sports hub games network that what if sports belongs to.
What would truly be awesome is if what if sports could borrow some people from NFC to help write draft room code so we could use a real legit draft room for these theme drafts.
Please feel free to completely ignore any and or everything I have written. I have only been playing this game for a year and a half and am still a novice compared to most of you.
I just wanted to offer some thoughts so Midge can take it all and figure out if he wants to make any changes in the future.

I strongly disagree with the comment about a drafter being skipped. If the person missed their time slot, the draft moves on. Period. The NFL draft operates the same way (remember when the Vikings missed their pick in 2003?)
You do NOT have to wait for your time slot to pick. That's not what it's designed for. Its designed to keep the draft moving and waiting for a skipped drafter to pick does the opposite of that and it hurts the other 23 drafters bc it prevents the ability to get ahead of the clock. I'm all for preset time slots of 30 mins or longer. I'm very very very strongly against waiting until your time slot to pick if another drafter ahead of you is skipped. It literally makes zero sense to me. I dont even begin to understand the logic.

I like Chewy's proposal personally. There are just sometimes incidents in life where occasionally someone cannot make their pick in a pre-determined time slot, or within 4-6 hours. It happens to me three weeks ago when my daughter had to have her appendix taken out (did not wake up that day thinking that would happen). I'm online a good portion of the day, so I am one of those people who gets frustrated about slow drafts too - but I'd rather stretch the draft out a bit, then have someone screwed over, with a competitive balance issue. I don't think the NFL draft is comparable as that is a). a real draft and b). everyone has set aside time to draft that particular day.

Also, I want to mention, I think I screwed my own draft up here.

Agree with chewy 100%.

With pre-scheduled draft slots the penalty for being skipped would consistent as it is based on length of time rather than on a "run" of an arbitrary length only because bunch of guys happened to be ready to pick before their time slots.

I agree with Milest. You have a schedule of when u are supposed to pick. I would prefer we let other owners go ahead and pick at will, but I could see staying within your allotted time frame when another owner misses a pick. Maybe after the 1st 5 rounds, the remaining rounds could be “speed” rounds where if u miss your pick owners can continue to pick early if they want so we don’t hold things up too much.