Well, if I wanted him previously, guess I should want him now too...

2000 Octavio Dotel

1958 Bill Mazeroski 2b

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Posted by Mwett on 6/30/2022 4:43:00 PM (view original):
I am wondering though any word or idea on the implementation timeline from the initial season protects from 15 to eventual 18 ? I'd suggest gradually say from 15 then 16 then 17 then 18, rather than all at once.

I am not sure i understand this.. the rule reads you cannot release more than ten...indicating you could keep 23..You will always have to bring in a new player to play the 1st season of your 25 yr period...could draft this slot new or trade for one who will be going past the last year of another owner.

I should've clarified the 1st season MINIMUM protect is 15, meaning MAX drop of 10, eventually becoming a MAX drop of 7 with MINIMUM protect of 18.

Being new and wanting to play safe with sufficient playing time, I have many 1 - 1 1/2 year wonders for Season1, but probly not enough mileage going into Season2 to drop from minimum 15 protects to minimum 18 protects all at once.

Gonna be at least 2 seasons before we look at that. 1st, to see how things play out, maybe people like having some one year wonders.

2, maybe it's needed.

That one will go for a vote before we get there. There will be pleanty of notice when/if it happens.

This is going to be irrelevant next year, since no new players are going to be added to the draft pool. Whoever is not drafted this year will be drafted next. In year 3, all the 1-year wonders from this draft will be thrown back to get redrafted. Only then is a limit on how many players you cut going to matter.

Apologeeze again cuz I'm new, If I'm missing something I'll try to catch up. But how is this not relevant ? :

Imagine 5 platoons and 5 shorter than full-time arms, trying to get lower playing time but presumably better rates combined out of multiple players than fewer full-time ones. Throw those back and rinse repeat the following season with our current 10 MAX drops. Then a season comes along announced now only 7 MAX drops. So, 10-7 equals 3 spots that would have to kept presumably worse than the 1-year you had it lined up for. Commish promised an ease into it transition but this or similar scenario is at some point going to happen and has to be accounted for by each of us, yes ?

It shouldnt be an issue for a few reason.

it's not gonna happen out of the blue. After 2-3 season, we'll talk about it. If we agree, then we wouldnt implement it for another season (you are right, you need some time to adjust)

But, that is the idea, or part of the challenge, to balance the long term with the right now.

But, we wont just end season 3 and say ha, season 4 will only have 7 (instead of 10 picks). There will be a lead-in to it. (example could be end of season 3, deciding that season 5 will have that 7 picks)...

but, we aint there yet

41-65 team - P Sonny Siebert 1965

84-08 team - P Rich Harden 2008

1981RP Jeff Reardon

(72 - 96) 1989 Larry Anderson

Sparky Lyle 1972

Posted by royhobbs09 on 7/1/2022 6:31:00 PM (view original):
(72 - 96) 1989 Larry Anderson

as a Sox fan, I still dont hate that trade.

Bagwell wasnt considered a great prospect. The Sox had Boggs, Tim Naehring, Scott Cooper, and Mo Vaughn all ahead of him. Sabermetrics wasnt a thing yet.

They thought they would have Anderson at least for another season. Something happened in the offseason that made him a free-agent.

They were going for it. They rarely had a good-great pitching staff in the late 80's and in 90 they did. Things were clicking, Reardon got hurt, and they needed one more arm.

yeah, hindsight sucks. Anderson left as a free agent, and bagwell yada yada yada.

12 yr old me was more aghast that lou gorman didnt want to trade for willie mcgee; "where would we play him" I'd find room for a switch hitting .330 hitter, who could still field and still run. Mcgee/Burks/Brunansky with Greenwell at DH sounded pretty good to me

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Posted by Mwett on 7/1/2022 3:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by firesalt on 7/1/2022 1:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bottomlee on 7/1/2022 9:10:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Mwett on 7/1/2022 1:55:00 AM (view original):

Posted by BullMoose on 7/1/2022 12:26:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Mwett on 6/30/2022 4:43:00 PM (view original):
I am wondering though any word or idea on the implementation timeline from the initial season protects from 15 to eventual 18 ? I'd suggest gradually say from 15 then 16 then 17 then 18, rather than all at once.

I am not sure i understand this.. the rule reads you cannot release more than ten...indicating you could keep 23..You will always have to bring in a new player to play the 1st season of your 25 yr period...could draft this slot new or trade for one who will be going past the last year of another owner.

I should've clarified the 1st season MINIMUM protect is 15, meaning MAX drop of 10, eventually becoming a MAX drop of 7 with MINIMUM protect of 18.

Being new and wanting to play safe with sufficient playing time, I have many 1 - 1 1/2 year wonders for Season1, but probly not enough mileage going into Season2 to drop from minimum 15 protects to minimum 18 protects all at once.

Gonna be at least 2 seasons before we look at that. 1st, to see how things play out, maybe people like having some one year wonders.

2, maybe it's needed.

That one will go for a vote before we get there. There will be pleanty of notice when/if it happens.

This is going to be irrelevant next year, since no new players are going to be added to the draft pool. Whoever is not drafted this year will be drafted next. In year 3, all the 1-year wonders from this draft will be thrown back to get redrafted. Only then is a limit on how many players you cut going to matter.

Apologeeze again cuz I'm new, If I'm missing something I'll try to catch up. But how is this not relevant ? :

Imagine 5 platoons and 5 shorter than full-time arms, trying to get lower playing time but presumably better rates combined out of multiple players than fewer full-time ones. Throw those back and rinse repeat the following season with our current 10 MAX drops. Then a season comes along announced now only 7 MAX drops. So, 10-7 equals 3 spots that would have to kept presumably worse than the 1-year you had it lined up for. Commish promised an ease into it transition but this or similar scenario is at some point going to happen and has to be accounted for by each of us, yes ?

Anyone who wants to cut more than 10 players after season 1 will find the draft pool pretty shallow. That was my first point. The second point is that, once we get past this next draft period, we will see just how shallow the pool is, and we will be in a better place to discuss if and when we should lower the number of cuts allowed in future seasons. I agree that if next season we agree to lower the number of cuts, it should not go in effect until season 4, because we will be drafting for season 2 on the premise that we can cut 10 of four players before season 3.

Posted by tedcogswell on 7/1/2022 7:39:00 PM (view original):
1997 Mark Grudzielanek

tedcogswell already drafted Jamie Moyer for 1997, so he will have to change this.

Oh, and another thing...
1988 Bob Milacki