RELIGION DISCUSSION Topic

Here is a question or two for anyone here:
  1. What do you think Jesus meant, with his last words? Those words were "It is finished" (Tetelestai)
  2. What what do you think the real end result was, of his ministry here on Earth?
7/4/2022 9:42 AM
Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/4/2022 9:42:00 AM (view original):
Here is a question or two for anyone here:
  1. What do you think Jesus meant, with his last words? Those words were "It is finished" (Tetelestai)
  2. What what do you think the real end result was, of his ministry here on Earth?
Hey Dumbo - there are 4 gospels and the last words differ from gospel to gospel.
How can that be about something as important as that.
Question 2 - a cult began and after the cult was appropriated by the Romans it expanded very often by force.

All religions start as a cult. If not for the laws of kosher the Romans might have chosen Judaism instead.

Mormons and John Smith - an obvious cult but has millions upon millions of followers.

Islam started as a cult that expanded.
Every religion starts as a cult.

There has never been a religion that was so irresistible that everyone would accept it.

1. The gospel writer tried to say his purpose on earth was done. That does not mean I believe those were his last words. I have heard that his last words were ouch.
2. The result of his following and preaching was a small cult if followers that expanded by the Romans.
And because the Romans took it over Christianity caused countless millions of death and suffering.
It was the greatest tragedy in the world until the black plague.
And during Hitler’s nazis who claimed a version of christianity the Catholic Church was very silent.
In the united states christians used the bible to rationalize the institution of slavery and creating second hand citizens of women.
Also the KKK were christians and rationalized what they did based on bible passages.
Today the world continues to ignore climate change to a large degree because of fundamental christians who think that the world is 5800 years old and the dinosaur bones are joke by God.

Long story short I believe that Christianity has done far more harm then good. Existential harm.
7/4/2022 10:02 PM (edited)
Posted by Jetson21 on 7/4/2022 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/4/2022 9:42:00 AM (view original):
Here is a question or two for anyone here:
  1. What do you think Jesus meant, with his last words? Those words were "It is finished" (Tetelestai)
  2. What what do you think the real end result was, of his ministry here on Earth?
Hey Dumbo - there are 4 gospels and the last words differ from gospel to gospel.
How can that be about something as important as that.
Question 2 - a cult began and after the cult was appropriated by the Romans it expanded very often by force.

All religions start as a cult. If not for the laws of kosher the Romans might have chosen Judaism instead.

Mormons and John Smith - an obvious cult but has millions upon millions of followers.

Islam started as a cult that expanded.
Every religion starts as a cult.

There has never been a religion that was so irresistible that everyone would accept it.
Thanks for coming back to this. The 4 Gospels thing.

Show us what you are talking about.
7/4/2022 2:30 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 7/2/2022 7:37:00 PM (view original):
and speaking of stupid and unnecessary things to say that covers most of the stuff you post.
You guys, please try to be at peace with one another. You can do this.. we need to try to stay close to the topic
7/4/2022 6:50 PM
Posted by DougOut on 7/4/2022 2:31:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Jetson21 on 7/4/2022 2:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/4/2022 9:42:00 AM (view original):
Here is a question or two for anyone here:
  1. What do you think Jesus meant, with his last words? Those words were "It is finished" (Tetelestai)
  2. What what do you think the real end result was, of his ministry here on Earth?
Hey Dumbo - there are 4 gospels and the last words differ from gospel to gospel.
How can that be about something as important as that.
Question 2 - a cult began and after the cult was appropriated by the Romans it expanded very often by force.

All religions start as a cult. If not for the laws of kosher the Romans might have chosen Judaism instead.

Mormons and John Smith - an obvious cult but has millions upon millions of followers.

Islam started as a cult that expanded.
Every religion starts as a cult.

There has never been a religion that was so irresistible that everyone would accept it.
Thanks for coming back to this. The 4 Gospels thing.

Show us what you are talking about.
DUMBO speaking. Please just try to answer the questions. This thread has great potential

These are the questions:
  1. What do you think Jesus meant, with These words? "It is finished" (Tetelestai) [reworded 4 u]
  2. What what do you think the real end result was, of his ministry here on Earth? Rephrased, what was accomplished??
7/4/2022 6:57 PM (edited)
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He didn't quote any scripture, that's for sure.

7/4/2022 7:03 PM
As he said..........dismissed the words and the warning.
The Reverend seems to have you nailed!

Do you widgets THINK your side is supposed to be winning here on earth now??
7/4/2022 7:08 PM
He didn't quote any scripture. That's for sure.
7/4/2022 7:09 PM
Sooner or later, Donald Trump's name will enter this thread.

Here are some problems I have with him:

He names the name of Jesus Christ, BUT He takes credit for what other people have done. I have seen this, a lot.

He talks about how wonderful he is (Jesus said we need to be humble and modest in spirit)

He definitely does NOT know the Bible. Yes he has been married 3x. So he kind of represents America, in that respect as the Div rate is over 50 percent

I do not question his passion for MAGA

He shook hands with the Pope, and the Pope is NOT a man of peace, but he is being sold to the world as such. Every president I can remember, has 'embraced' the pope, but that institution is out for control over the world, and it is getting close to that in the last 3 years.

You can read about the Vatican in Revelation, the last book of the Bible. It is not named, but the descriptions are unmistakable

America's leaders are joining the country to a harlot aka the Vatican. 350 years ago,folks came here to escape religious persecution, but now the 'leaders' are JOINING church and state.. and I mean America with Rome.. which I believe will eventually have a stronghold over the world, for seven years.. and the initial idea was to separate the two, so that no government could ever declare a state religion.. thus creating more religious freedom

JFK.. was a Catholic.. and HE stated that he would never let Rome tell him what to do with regard to governing America. He kept his word. I liked JFK

BUSH JUNIOR.. on the other hand, said just the opposite..HE said that the pope should be seen as the world standard for morality. I could not believe this. Billy Graham sold out to them too. and JFK had more brains in his little finger than both Bush's put together..

The pope is an ANTI christ.
7/4/2022 7:20 PM
Posted by DougOut on 7/4/2022 7:03:00 PM (view original):
He didn't quote any scripture, that's for sure.

He doesn't know any. He is not of the Lord. There are more like him on the horizon, and I see hundreds of these jerks on U Tube.
7/4/2022 7:23 PM
I checked his bio a few days ago. He's a failed Methodist preacher. Now he has a blog. Very pro gay and trans-sexual. If you read his bio you would know why. Just another hater preaching hate.
7/4/2022 7:37 PM
Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/4/2022 7:20:00 PM (view original):
Sooner or later, Donald Trump's name will enter this thread.

Here are some problems I have with him:

He names the name of Jesus Christ, BUT He takes credit for what other people have done. I have seen this, a lot.

He talks about how wonderful he is (Jesus said we need to be humble and modest in spirit)

He definitely does NOT know the Bible. Yes he has been married 3x. So he kind of represents America, in that respect as the Div rate is over 50 percent

I do not question his passion for MAGA

He shook hands with the Pope, and the Pope is NOT a man of peace, but he is being sold to the world as such. Every president I can remember, has 'embraced' the pope, but that institution is out for control over the world, and it is getting close to that in the last 3 years.

You can read about the Vatican in Revelation, the last book of the Bible. It is not named, but the descriptions are unmistakable

America's leaders are joining the country to a harlot aka the Vatican. 350 years ago,folks came here to escape religious persecution, but now the 'leaders' are JOINING church and state.. and I mean America with Rome.. which I believe will eventually have a stronghold over the world, for seven years.. and the initial idea was to separate the two, so that no government could ever declare a state religion.. thus creating more religious freedom

JFK.. was a Catholic.. and HE stated that he would never let Rome tell him what to do with regard to governing America. He kept his word. I liked JFK

BUSH JUNIOR.. on the other hand, said just the opposite..HE said that the pope should be seen as the world standard for morality. I could not believe this. Billy Graham sold out to them too. and JFK had more brains in his little finger than both Bush's put together..

The pope is an ANTI christ.
according to you, most people other than you are the anti christ.
7/4/2022 7:53 PM
Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/4/2022 6:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 7/2/2022 7:37:00 PM (view original):
and speaking of stupid and unnecessary things to say that covers most of the stuff you post.
You guys, please try to be at peace with one another. You can do this.. we need to try to stay close to the topic
Don't tell me what I need to do. Since I am going to hell anyway I may as well do what I want to do. You can only tell me what you think I need to do. I don't put much credence in what you think I should do.
7/4/2022 7:56 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 7/4/2022 7:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/4/2022 6:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 7/2/2022 7:37:00 PM (view original):
and speaking of stupid and unnecessary things to say that covers most of the stuff you post.
You guys, please try to be at peace with one another. You can do this.. we need to try to stay close to the topic
Don't tell me what I need to do. Since I am going to hell anyway I may as well do what I want to do. You can only tell me what you think I need to do. I don't put much credence in what you think I should do.
Man do you ever love to fight. What a waste of space. What happened to you today? Stocks take a dive? Wife leave you? what?? This is you: Don't tell ME what to do!! I am too big for that

You need to grow up

and I don't care WHAT you do. So call me unloving.

maybe you are restless within. You mention hell more than once in a while
7/4/2022 8:06 PM
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