Thanks, will get the Round 25 draft order set up this morning...

	ROUND 23
Pick	Owner________	Player__________	Salary_______	New Salary____	Pos
1	3dayrotation	1989 Doug Baker	472,450	83,440,174	Bench2
2	happyhours	1972 Jim Wynn	5,345,620	93,054,054	OF3
3	bigsteve12	1988 Barry Bonds	5,211,529	93,651,902	OF3
4	schwarze	1973 Chris Arnold	300,893	89,674,856	Bench1
5	alice	1991 Gary Varsho	1,219,954	93,429,130	Bench3
6	mllama54	1965 Smoky Burgess	551,341	94,382,518	Bench4
7	calhoop	1964 Lou Brock	4,993,327	98,963,982	OF1
8	redcped	1977 Rawly Eastwick	1,000,263	95,304,999	RP5
9	reddtrain	1981 Gene Roof	828,619	95,259,928	Bench3
10	nocomm999	1971 Johnny Jeter	698,683	95,558,661	Bench3
11	BeAllEndAll	1980 Rich Gossage	3,245,082	98,504,124	RP1
12	thejuice6	1988 Ken Phelps	1,906,516	97,436,738	Bench4
13	mpitt76	1964 Al Smith	302,435	96,486,500	Bench3
14	pmars2001	1967 Manny Jimenez	208,777	96,501,442	Bench3
15	Jtpsops	1967 Ossie Chavarria	200,076	96,836,111	Bench1
16	ff09	1975 John Candelaria	3,764,847	100,540,156	RP2
17	ronthegenius	1983 John Denny	6,652,213	104,770,087	SP3
18	vilefileman	1976 Cito Gaston	795,586	101,585,842	Bench3
19	Chisock	1971 Scipio Spinks	621,676	101,621,022	RP7
20	pedrocerrano	1974 Steve Mingori	1,903,801	103,766,007	RP4
21	footballmm11	1989 Nolan Ryan	8,374,057	110,804,045	SP4
22	NebHusker	1984 Garry Hancock	200,000	102,795,732	Bench3
23	njbigwig	1978 Tom Bruno	1,328,572	105,647,683	RP4
24	midknight	1970 Tony Gonzalez	644,864	109,929,505	Bench3
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	ROUND 24
Pick	Owner________	Player__________	Salary_______	New Salary____	Pos
1	3dayrotation	1982 Fernando Valenzuela	8,106,594	91,546,768	SP2
2	schwarze	1984 Dave Stieb	7,593,115	97,267,971	SP1
3	bigsteve12	1976 Dave Cash	4,963,921	98,615,823	2B
4	happyhours	1971 Dave Roberts	8,249,310	101,303,364	SP2
5	BeAllEndAll	1990 Wade Boggs	4,635,778	103,139,902	3B
6	calhoop	1981 Burt Hooton	6,643,181	105,607,163	SP4
7	alice	1983 Jeff Heathcock	1,067,688	94,496,818	RP6
8	redcped	1971 Billy Williams	5,278,960	100,583,959	OF2
9	mllama54	1984 Rod Scurry	1,749,931	96,132,449	RP5
10	reddtrain	1971 Dick Allen	5,455,412	100,715,340	1B
11	nocomm999	1976 Mike Schmidt	6,908,334	102,466,995	3B
12	Jtpsops	1968 Moe Drabowsky	2,052,679	98,888,790	RP3
13	pmars2001	1983 Ted Simmons	4,780,691	101,282,133	C
14	thejuice6	1973 Frank Tanana	721,896	98,158,634	RP7
15	ff09	1978 Garry Templeton	4,875,063	105,415,219	SS
16	footballmm11	1966 Eddie Fisher	842,648	111,646,693	RP5
17	mpitt76	1989 Denny Walling	557,189	97,043,689	Bench4
18	ronthegenius	1973 Bob Reynolds	3,933,872	108,703,959	RP2
19	vilefileman	1982 John Wathan	3,909,558	105,495,400	C
20	pedrocerrano	1963 Bill White	5,889,276	109,655,283	1B
21	Chisock	1987 Darnell Coles	677,254	102,298,276	Bench1
22	NebHusker	1976 Robert Belloir	1,203,298	103,999,030	Bench2
23	njbigwig	1967 Wade Blasingame	251,113	105,898,796	RP7
24	midknight	1979 Frad Stanley	286,728	110,216,233	Bench1

Final data on drafted vs undrafted players.
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Season	.	Roster Creator	.	Players	…	Drafted $$	…	Orig Roster $$	…	Undrafted $$	…	Salary Cap
1963		schwarze		20		89,572,948		99,683,843		10,110,895		110,988,911
1964		ronthegenius		18		77,326,426		99,977,034		22,650,608		109,734,939
1965		schwarze		18		87,756,519		99,725,867		11,969,348		110,803,065
1966		NebHusker		19		88,551,247		99,988,410		11,437,163		110,856,284
1967		schwarze		21		81,920,990		99,790,293		17,869,303		110,213,070
1968		schwarze		17		70,904,080		99,621,779		28,717,699		109,128,230
1969		schwarze		21		91,190,428		99,735,262		8,544,834		111,145,517
1970		vilefileman		17		60,089,280		99,810,342		39,721,062		108,027,894
1971		mllama54		19		85,237,017		99,922,512		14,685,495		110,531,451
1972		nocomm999		19		75,293,670		99,922,365		24,628,695		109,537,131
1973		pedrocerrano		22		88,384,084		99,969,209		11,585,125		110,841,488
1974		happyhours		18		81,752,301		99,786,352		18,034,051		110,196,595
1975		pmars2001		19		82,208,525		99,980,584		17,772,059		110,222,794
1976		alice		20		94,376,552		99,787,598		5,411,046		111,458,895
1977		Chisock		21		91,610,408		99,451,441		7,841,033		111,215,897
1978		BeAllEndAll		21		94,636,255		99,767,758		5,131,503		111,486,850
1979		njbigwig		19		73,591,660		99,862,453		26,270,793		109,372,921
1980		ff09		20		91,362,234		99,743,704		8,381,470		111,161,853
1981		redcped		19		77,182,849		99,739,151		22,556,302		109,744,370
1982		3dayrotation		19		76,280,640		97,887,063		21,606,423		109,839,358
1983		schwarze		21		86,273,088		99,537,711		13,264,623		110,673,538
1984		mpitt76		18		70,807,580		96,465,064		25,657,484		109,434,252
1985		thejuice6		18		64,128,024		99,792,186		35,664,162		108,433,584
1986		bigsteve12		19		78,218,269		99,243,718		21,025,449		109,897,455
1987		midknight		14		68,697,007		99,871,877		31,174,870		108,882,513
1988		footballmm11		18		81,981,429		99,737,064		17,755,635		110,224,437
1989		schwarze		22		96,361,267		99,664,671		3,303,404		111,669,660
1990		Jtpsops		19		77,905,773		97,383,882		19,478,109		110,052,189
1991		reddtrain		16		68,318,083		98,408,692		30,090,609		108,990,939
1992		calhoop		23		93,448,525		99,985,656		6,537,131		111,346,287
		Total / Average		575		81,512,239		99,474,785		17,962,546		110,203,745
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Schwarze Median --->				21.0		87,756,519		99,683,843		11,969,348		110,803,065

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calhoop's 1992 roster was the closest to getting all 24 players selected (and would have had I have drafted '92 Griffery Jr. over '72 Roy White, which I almost did). My 1989 team had the most salary drafted. The only players that went undrafted on that roster was a 200K reliever and Craig Biggio. FYI - Biggio was the ONLY eligible starting catcher with over 500 PA in 1989. vilefileman's 1970 roster saw all four SPs go undrafted. Maybe he shouldn't have drafted 1160 SP-innings. My 1968 roster had 5 of 8 starting batters go undrafted which isn't a big shock. Nobody could hit in 1968. midknight's 1987 roster had 5 of 7 RPs go undrafted.

Also, considering my 7 rosters (in theory) were the 7 least desirable rosters to build, I was very happy to see 6 of the 7 have an average or better-than average showing in terms of undrafted salary. Ranked in order, my seasons finished 1st (1989), 7th (1969), 8th (1963), 11th (1965), 12th (1983), 16th (1967) and 27th (1968) in terms of least salary undrafted.

Season	.	Roster Creator	.	Players	…	Undrafted $$$	…	Salary Cap	…	Final Salary	…	Salary Left
1982		3dayrotation		19		21,606,423		109,839,358		91,546,768		18,292,590
1976		alice		20		5,411,046		111,458,895		94,496,818		16,962,077
1971		mllama54		19		14,685,495		110,531,451		96,132,449		14,399,002
1984		mpitt76		18		25,657,484		109,434,252		97,043,689		12,390,563
Median		schwarze		21		11,969,348		110,803,065		97,267,971		13,535,094
1985		thejuice6		18		35,664,162		108,433,584		98,158,634		10,274,950
1986		bigsteve12		19		21,025,449		109,897,455		98,615,823		11,281,632
1990		Jtpsops		19		19,478,109		110,052,189		98,888,790		11,163,399
1981		redcped		19		22,556,302		109,744,370		100,583,959		9,160,411
1991		reddtrain		16		30,090,609		108,990,939		100,715,340		8,275,599
1975		pmars2001		19		17,772,059		110,222,794		101,282,133		8,940,661
1974		happyhours		18		18,034,051		110,196,595		101,303,364		8,893,231
1977		Chisock		21		7,841,033		111,215,897		102,298,276		8,917,621
1972		nocomm999		19		24,628,695		109,537,131		102,466,995		7,070,136
1978		BeAllEndAll		21		5,131,503		111,486,850		103,139,902		8,346,948
1966		NebHusker*		19		11,437,163		110,856,284		103,999,030		6,857,254
1979		njbigwig		19		26,270,793		109,372,921		105,898,796		3,474,125
1980		ff09		20		8,381,470		111,161,853		105,415,219		5,746,634
1970		vilefileman		17		39,721,062		108,027,894		105,495,400		2,532,494
1992		calhoop		23		6,537,131		111,346,287		105,607,163		5,739,124
1964		ronthegenius		18		22,650,608		109,734,939		108,703,959		1,030,980
1973		pedrocerrano		22		11,585,125		110,841,488		109,655,283		1,186,205
1987		midknight		14		31,174,870		108,882,513		110,216,233		-1,333,720
1988		footballmm11		19		12,544,106		110,745,589		111,646,693		-901,104
		Total / Average		576		17,788,828		110,117,275		102,107,445		8,009,829

* Will draft last due to getting stuck. Also, NebHusker, midknight and footballmm11 will be placed in the NL East, along with the team with the highest salary after round 25.

Round 25 draft can begin now.

Everyone ahead of me has 1969, so I’ll grab:

1969 Rico Petrocelli

SS

9,110,922

Nobody in front of me has 1986, so I will take 1986 Mike Scott, $12,354,070

Posted by schwarze on 8/4/2022 1:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Jtpsops on 8/4/2022 1:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by schwarze on 8/4/2022 11:23:00 AM (view original):
Reminder

You are not allowed to pick a player that would put you over the $112M cap, if there is a cheaper player available to you. If you have no other option, then you will instead select a <300K player each round from that point on. You will also get a <300K player in Round 25. You will automatically be categorized as the highest salaried team and be put in the NL East.

Do all if these rules apply to getting stuck as well? The initial rules state that we draft a <$300K player and draft last in Round 25, but are we also relegated to a <$300K player in Round 25? Just want to clarify.

I can see why you are asking b/c it's not clear... and I see a potential loophole that I will now close.
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"Like in version 2, we have 30 choices in each bucket so it will be a lot harder to get stuck (but not impossible). If somehow you still end up getting stuck and have to pick a default player, you will simply choose any <300K player from a season you didn't already draft. The player must be the same position/bucket that you defaulted at. You will also draft last in the round 25 draft."
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Since this rule states "you draft last in round 25", there's an implication that you still get to draft a player, albeit the 24th choice in round 25. The loophole is that somebody could intentionally get stuck in order to get a 300K default player assigned to their salary, thus increasing the amount they could spend in round 25 (even if it's the last pick). To close that loophole, the salary applied for purposes of the round 25 pick will be the highest salary of the 30 players in the specific bucket you got stuck in. It's not quite the same as being forced to take a <300K round 25 player, but it will deter anybody from trying to get stuck.

Re-posting the question/answer that came up a few days ago, in case anybody is wondering why NebHusker is drafting where he is and how his salary was calculated.

No one else can take 1973

1973 Joe Morgan

2B

8,216,504

Schwarze, I assume midknight and I need to draft our $300k player from one of the years we haven’t used?

1973 Max Leon P - $247,520

Posted by footballmm11 on 8/7/2022 12:32:00 PM (view original):
Schwarze, I assume midknight and I need to draft our $300k player from one of the years we haven’t used?

Correct.

85 gooden

3B 1988 Wade Boggs 9,076,014

I will explain this pick and why ( 4 ) primary 3rd Baseman's in a summary after the draft.
i will also make a suggest for next season