Posted by DoctorKz on 10/5/2022 6:39:00 PM (view original):
I would simply like to ask a question, not trying to stir the pot, just asking...

What climate change legislation would prevent thunderstorms from rolling off the west African coast then becoming tropical storms and hurricanes, and at what cost? Do you really think we can control Mother Earth?

Posted by DoctorKz on 10/6/2022 4:32:00 PM (view original):
Am I to not put any faith in something like this?

https://www.newsweek.com/yes-climate-changing-no-its-not-emergency-opinion-1615632

Posted by DoctorKz on 10/6/2022 2:57:00 PM (view original):
I feel that pols and special interest groups are using this more as a tool rather than their actual concern for the planet. I will never trust John Kerry on anything, he's a snake. He and Kroenke need to be composted.

Posted by tangplay on 10/6/2022 7:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DoctorKz on 10/6/2022 4:32:00 PM (view original):
Am I to not put any faith in something like this?

https://www.newsweek.com/yes-climate-changing-no-its-not-emergency-opinion-1615632

Really interesting case study. You know how you're claiming that climate change promotion is funded by "special interests" so you can't believe them?

The guy who wrote this opinion piece is the President of the Heartland Institute, which is a conservative think tank founded in 1984.

In the 1980s, the think tank worked with Phillip Morris to produce propaganda about how smoking poses zero health risks. Around the election of Obama, they shifted to focus more on climate change denial. They no longer disclose their current funding (wonder why), but in the mid 2000's, key donors to the Institute were ExxonMobil, the Koch Foundation, and a couple of major insurance and pharma companies (they also publish a lot against government healthcare). In 2006, the Walton family donated $300,000 to the organization, and then they published a piece about how WalMart doesn't mistreat its workers. Crazy coincidence!

In 2012, a document leak occurred that revealed payments of thousands of dollars the Institute was making to climate change denying scientists, who would then write papers about how it's a hoax. Radical!

But yeah, it's John Kerry who has all the interest groups behind him. Sure.

Posted by tangplay on 10/6/2022 12:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DoctorKz on 10/5/2022 6:39:00 PM (view original):
I would simply like to ask a question, not trying to stir the pot, just asking...

What climate change legislation would prevent thunderstorms from rolling off the west African coast then becoming tropical storms and hurricanes, and at what cost? Do you really think we can control Mother Earth?

When the temperature and sea levels rise, hurricanes become stronger and more frequent. There's a ton of research on this. You're just anti-fact.

Posted by tangplay on 10/8/2022 11:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 10/6/2022 7:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DoctorKz on 10/6/2022 4:32:00 PM (view original):
Am I to not put any faith in something like this?

https://www.newsweek.com/yes-climate-changing-no-its-not-emergency-opinion-1615632

Really interesting case study. You know how you're claiming that climate change promotion is funded by "special interests" so you can't believe them?

The guy who wrote this opinion piece is the President of the Heartland Institute, which is a conservative think tank founded in 1984.

In the 1980s, the think tank worked with Phillip Morris to produce propaganda about how smoking poses zero health risks. Around the election of Obama, they shifted to focus more on climate change denial. They no longer disclose their current funding (wonder why), but in the mid 2000's, key donors to the Institute were ExxonMobil, the Koch Foundation, and a couple of major insurance and pharma companies (they also publish a lot against government healthcare). In 2006, the Walton family donated $300,000 to the organization, and then they published a piece about how WalMart doesn't mistreat its workers. Crazy coincidence!

In 2012, a document leak occurred that revealed payments of thousands of dollars the Institute was making to climate change denying scientists, who would then write papers about how it's a hoax. Radical!

But yeah, it's John Kerry who has all the interest groups behind him. Sure.

Dr Kz got real quiet after this one dropped

Posted by wylie715 on 10/3/2022 1:02:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by lostnfound74 on 9/17/2022 11:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Jetson21 on 9/17/2022 10:02:00 PM (view original):
It amazes me how people that have no scientific background are repulsed by a consensus of at least 99% of scientists in the weather and climate and environmental fields all over the world.

Sure one can find someone saying no because they get a rise out of it.

The anti science bunch and they are probably mostly or almost all maga republicans
do not trust science because they feel insecure about their own uneducated background.
It makes them feel good to repudiate the hated scientists…those know it alls.
So they claim that their common sense is just what the scientists are missing.

I am not trying to psycho analyze anyone but it explains to me the glorification of a lack of education and pretending to be superior to the science community.

99% eh? Show me the numbers. There are tens otf thousands who agree this is a hoax, and a political pawn. The Global warmingi-sts are too scared to publicaly debate with them, Mainly because they know they will lose

The universities are no longer places where people get educated, but they get indoctrinated.

One guy who knows this is a hoax is the guy who owns the Weather channel. Ya think he might have a clue or two?

Like I said - you can find a kook here and there. The guy you mention was a co founder of the weather channel who had not been a meteorologist for over 30 years.
He is deceased and died from air pollution
inhalation.

You are proving my point about education and attitudes toward college educated people from Maga supporters who are by and large usually not educated and carry a chip on their shoulder about it.

Trump has referred to his base as poorly educated. He says I love the poorly educated.
He has also called them the great uneducated.

YOU are poorly educated. You do not know right from wrong

you're the one who is poorly educated. Just because you think something is right or wrong, does not make it so.

Posted by bruceleefan on 10/6/2022 10:11:00 AM (view original):
I'm willing to sacrifice, but I'm not convinced that we can effect much change, even if we magically ended all carbon emissions tomorrow.

Too much forcing technologies that aren't really economically viable yet. We'll bankrupt our economy in the name of "saving the planet" only to discover we have much less control than we thought.

Are we contributing? Speeding up the climate change? Sure. Can we stop or reverse it? Laughable IMO. There's always been climate cycles throughout the billions of years. None of which were caused or impacted by people.

Can you imagine being stuck in bumper to bumper traffic for hours trying to evacuate and most of the cars are electric, losing power and not having enough range to successfully make it to safety...

Posted by lostnfound74 on 10/11/2022 1:37:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 10/6/2022 12:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DoctorKz on 10/5/2022 6:39:00 PM (view original):
I would simply like to ask a question, not trying to stir the pot, just asking...

What climate change legislation would prevent thunderstorms from rolling off the west African coast then becoming tropical storms and hurricanes, and at what cost? Do you really think we can control Mother Earth?

When the temperature and sea levels rise, hurricanes become stronger and more frequent. There's a ton of research on this. You're just anti-fact.

You didn't answer his question: " Do you really think we can control Mother Earth?
perhaps I am a glutton for punishment, but i am interested in your answer to this one