Genuine Question for Conservatives Topic

Posted by tangplay on 12/15/2022 3:03:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 12/15/2022 2:02:00 PM (view original):
Well, I admit to not enjoying rap. If that makes me a racist than I'll cop to it.
Course I hate Opera just as much.
And really don't care for polka much.

Not enough guitars!
It's still music. You can not enjoy it and admit that it is a valid artistic form.
But why should he have to?
Art is very subjective.
You shouldn't try to force someone to accept that something is "art" when it doesn't speak to them.
It isn't art to them at all. That's his opinion and it's perfectly okay for him to hold that opinion.
12/15/2022 3:30 PM
Dawg what art means that not everyone is going to get it or like it
12/15/2022 3:56 PM
Posted by bruceleefan on 12/15/2022 3:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 12/15/2022 3:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bruceleefan on 12/15/2022 8:26:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 12/15/2022 2:33:00 AM (view original):
Tucker Carlson interviewed Kanye for his program about a month ago. In the interview that was shown to the public, Kanye talks about a lot of stuff, but is mostly framed as a victim of the leftist woke mob or whatever. Recently, the full version was leaked, and it turns out that Tucker cut out bits of the interview where Kanye was being explicitly antisemitic.

My question to yall is why you think Tucker did this and, knowing what Kanye said about Jews in the interview, still chose to cut the interview so that the he appeared to be a victim of the media and not antisemitic.

Please discuss. I'll give the real answer at the end!
Because FOX is no better than the MSM.
They are just pushing a different narrative.
Ye's comments were edited out because they ruin the narrative FOX is pushing.
Finish the thought. What is the NARRATIVE that Fox is pushing and why can't Kanye's antisemitism be included in that narrative? Why intentionally cut it out
Because if they air all of the batshit crazy stuff he said then it invalidates the "MSM is unfairly attacking Kanye simply because he is a "conservative"" narrative.
So what you're saying is Tucker Carlson knowingly edited the interview to frame Kanye as an average conservative to his audiencs even after he KNEW Kanye was antisemitic.

Tucker Carlson must not care very much about the antisemitism stuff. Or he WANTS his audience to pick up on that later. Interesting.
12/15/2022 3:58 PM
I mean sure, you can assign all sorts of motives that suit your own personal narrative and who knows?
But it's much more likely that it simply ***** up THEIR narrative so they edit.
12/15/2022 4:16 PM


KANYE RELEASES BRAND NEW ALBUM "MY STRUGGLE"
CELEBS· Dec 1, 2022 · BabylonBee.com

AUSTIN, TX — Amid a storm of controversy over recent antisemitic comments and remarks praising Hitler, Ye West has announced the release of his brand-new album My Struggle.

"This album will is the greatest work of art created by mankind in the history of all time," said West at a press conference no one attended. "These songs are genius! These songs are the 8th wonder of the world! It will sell more copies than any album in history!"

"That is unless they manage to stop me. That's mein struggle — er, I mean mystruggle."

Ye's music production house GOOD Music also put out a press release to promote the new album. The tracklist will include singles "New ‘Stache Flow," "Yeezus Walks (Into Poland)," and "(They Are) Heartless."

The announcement has been met with condemnation from the Jewish community, but praise from Donald Trump, who was apparently unaware of the controversy surrounding it. "Yes, I know struggle, so much struggle. No one has struggled as much as I have," said Trump regarding the album release. "Kanye is a fine person who has said very nice things about me. I can't wait to listen to his new album about his struggle, even though it's probably not as big of a struggle as my struggle."

At publishing time, Ye's record company also announced they have booked two tour dates: one in Dawson Springs, Kentucky, and the other for ISIS.



KANYE WEST DENOUNCES UNHINGED 'YE' PERSON FOR OFFENSIVE TWEETS
CELEBS· Oct 10, 2022 · BabylonBee.com

U.S. — American singer/songwriter Kanye West took to social media to denounce anti-Semitic comments made by a mysterious, unhinged individual known only as "Ye."

"This Ye guy is totally insane," Kanye West said on Truth Social on Sunday night. "I wouldn't let him near my kids. His comments about Jewish people are reprehensible, especially coming from a person who looks just like me. He's definitely not me though. Someone should do something about that guy."

West's post on Truth Social went viral after being "re-truthed" twice, a record for the platform.

Critics have called out West for crudely deflecting blame. "There are pictures of Ye all over the Internet. It's obviously you!" said @truthpatriot47 in a direct reply to West's Truth Social post.

"Not me," West soundly refuted. "I would never make comments about the evil Jews that control everything the way that 'Ye' guy did. Unacceptable."

Kanye West's Truth Social account was later suspended indefinitely.

At publishing time, the multiple Grammy winner discussed his account suspension in a new YouTube show called "Conspiracy With Kanye" in which he further discussed the Ye/Kanye West conspiracy "everyone is talking about." Thus far there are only two episodes and they consist of angry voice-overs accompanied by side-by-side picture comparisons of Ye and Kanye, who he still maintains are two different people.


12/15/2022 4:50 PM
Posted by lostnfound74 on 12/15/2022 3:34:00 AM (view original):
God said, "I will bless them that bless thee, and will curse them that curse thee' he was referring to Israel, and as long as the US stands with Israel against their enemies, God will bless the US of A.

Anti Semites are under God's wrath.. forever

I have no idea why Tucker did anything.. and I am not going steady with Fox (Julie is a lot sexier)
I'm pretty sure Israel and the USA did not exist when the Bible was written
12/15/2022 5:21 PM
Posted by bruceleefan on 12/15/2022 4:16:00 PM (view original):
I mean sure, you can assign all sorts of motives that suit your own personal narrative and who knows?
But it's much more likely that it simply ***** up THEIR narrative so they edit.
Yeah, I understand that Tucker was trying to preserve his narrative. My question was WHY his narrative had to include making someone he knew to be antisemitic look good. Doesn't that show that Tucker doesn't really care about Jewish people that much?

He could have chosen not to air the special, or to frame it in a different light.

I don't understand why this is so benign to you. If MSNBC interviewed a celebrity who was saying how much they want a genocide of white people, and then framed them as a victim while cutting out parts of the interview where they disparaged white people, you would be incensed, rightfully.
12/15/2022 8:49 PM
Everyone has the right to be upset over it sure.
I think assigning such deep motives gives Tucker far too much credit.

I'm not saying you're absolutely wrong because I don't know. I just think believing the "real" motive is Tucker is also antisemitic or FOX wants more people to become antisemitic is a bit of a stretch.

The narrative is king.
Maybe there's more to it but it could just be that simple.
12/15/2022 9:32 PM
Tucker is a really smart guy and knows what he's doing.

I don't think most conservatives are antisemitic. I do think most conservative influencers are willing to tolerate antisemitism in their movements so long as they perceive it benefits them. I also think that the conservative influencers who aren't antisemitic are by and large useful idiots for antisemites. That's what happens when you take Nazi conspiracy theories and replace "Jews" with "Globalists/Woke Elites/George Soros." That's not an exaggeration, either.

Again, I want to stress that I don't think most conservative influencers are Nazis or hate Jews. But they have, whether intentionally or unintentionally, set up their base to believe every element of antisemitic ideology up to the point where Jews are mentioned specifically. Replace "Jews" with "Woke globalists." Kanye would be embraced by conservatives, and he literally was, right until he said the quiet part out loud.

This is really dangerous, for obvious reasons. And the left should do a better job countering it than just calling Kanye a "Nazi" without talking about why he is wrong or the underlying ideology.
12/15/2022 10:26 PM
Posted by tangplay on 12/15/2022 3:56:00 PM (view original):
Dawg what art means that not everyone is going to get it or like it
You mean, like the vaccine?
12/16/2022 2:38 AM
Posted by wylie715 on 12/15/2022 5:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by lostnfound74 on 12/15/2022 3:34:00 AM (view original):
God said, "I will bless them that bless thee, and will curse them that curse thee' he was referring to Israel, and as long as the US stands with Israel against their enemies, God will bless the US of A.

Anti Semites are under God's wrath.. forever

I have no idea why Tucker did anything.. and I am not going steady with Fox (Julie is a lot sexier)
I'm pretty sure Israel and the USA did not exist when the Bible was written
I will bless them that bless you; and curse them that curse you
.
The Us has always been in the first part of that. Time line is irrelevant
12/16/2022 2:42 AM
Yeah, YOUR version of Christ was definitely talking about a country that didn’t exist at the time and saying the “timeline is irrelevant” totally makes your statement valid.

How do you walk in those clown shoes, Canidiot?

12/16/2022 9:41 AM
Posted by tangplay on 12/15/2022 10:26:00 PM (view original):
Tucker is a really smart guy and knows what he's doing.

I don't think most conservatives are antisemitic. I do think most conservative influencers are willing to tolerate antisemitism in their movements so long as they perceive it benefits them. I also think that the conservative influencers who aren't antisemitic are by and large useful idiots for antisemites. That's what happens when you take Nazi conspiracy theories and replace "Jews" with "Globalists/Woke Elites/George Soros." That's not an exaggeration, either.

Again, I want to stress that I don't think most conservative influencers are Nazis or hate Jews. But they have, whether intentionally or unintentionally, set up their base to believe every element of antisemitic ideology up to the point where Jews are mentioned specifically. Replace "Jews" with "Woke globalists." Kanye would be embraced by conservatives, and he literally was, right until he said the quiet part out loud.

This is really dangerous, for obvious reasons. And the left should do a better job countering it than just calling Kanye a "Nazi" without talking about why he is wrong or the underlying ideology.
i think most conservative influencers are pro israel christian zionists

maybe i'm really taking about salem radio network which seems to air on two out of five terrestrial am stations in my town

there's another two out of five that do sports talk

and then there's the oddballs that haven't figured out how to sell pillows and bets
12/16/2022 11:38 AM
Being pro Israel isn't the same as being pro Jew.

If Israel elected a left wing leader watch conservative opinion instantly flip.
12/16/2022 1:34 PM
If Israel elected a left wing leader, Israel would cease to exist within a generation.
12/16/2022 1:41 PM
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