I’m pretty new to hoops dynasty and I’m sure it has been asked before and answered but I don’t see it. My question is this if I stay at my division 3 job for more then a couple seasons can I make the jump right to division 1 with experience or do you always need to make a stop at division 2 first. Thanks

You should be able to move to D2 after one season. Depending on your success, 6 to 10 seasons to a low D1.

Thanks so then it’s not possible to just stay at division 3 for 6 to 10 seasons then move to division 1

Posted by Whitetail96 on 1/2/2023 4:11:00 PM (view original):
Thanks so then it’s not possible to just stay at division 3 for 6 to 10 seasons then move to division 1

It is possible but you've got to have solid success. I don't know the exact amount. But I think regular national tournament team coaches can get qualified for DI from DIII.

Thanks for the info I’m working on a good recruiting class so I’m wanting to stay but I also don’t want to waste time in division 3 if it doesn’t help any

Not sure how far in your are, but if you want to go to D1, just jump to D2. If you’re already in to that 6-10 season range in D3, maybe stay put. But if not, just jump. You CAN jump to D1 from D3. But I would expect that it’s much easier from D2

i don’t think it takes near as long to get to D1 as it used to. How many seasons that means? I don’t know. But I don’t believe it’s even 6-10 seasons. But I could be wrong.

This is my first season so that’s why I was asking I’m torn between my recruiting class and getting to div 1 as quick as possible

they really lowered the bar on getting to d1 so if you are in a solid position there, its probably just as fast to stay at d3. if you evaluate after your first recruiting class and are like, wow this is gonna be a major rebuild - then faster to start over in d2. either way it should only take a few more seasons, if you have solid success (make the NT a couple times). but either way if you are facing major rebuild, it will take a few seasons longer (more or less). i don't know exactly how long it takes to get to d1 though, could be off a bit. i do think its less than 6-10 (depending on success)

I just finished my fifth season, all in D3, and was eligible for D1 for the first time after it

You can go right from D3 to D1. I know Baums did it to Princeton, but it took that E8 his first season to do so.

EDIT: I don't recall his exact post but I want to say his told him he was unqualified? But he applied anyway and got it?

Posted by upsetcity on 1/3/2023 1:11:00 PM (view original):
You can go right from D3 to D1. I know Baums did it to Princeton, but it took that E8 his first season to do so.

EDIT: I don't recall his exact post but I want to say his told him he was unqualified? But he applied anyway and got it?

IIRC, that was not intended (showing unqualified when you actually might get the job), and something they were going to fix long ago. Not sure it’s ever been addressed though, so it still may be possible.

As for when you will appear qualified, I think it’s something like 4 NT wins (or after ~6 not terrible seasons if no NT wins). I don’t know that from any official correspondence or anything, but that’s the eyeball impression I’ve gotten over the seasons since requirements loosened.

This response is really not the question you have asked but I think it's worth dropping here. D2/D3 are what i call "balanced" games meaning all teams are basically on a equal footing and any recruit the best teams can get, the lowest prestige teams also have a decent shot to recruit. The limited number of human coaches in D2/D3 relative to D1 also significantly improve your chances of being successful in the lower divisions.

D1 is unbalanced. The best teams have a massive advantage due to a game feature called baseline prestige. It's nearly impossible for even the best and most experienced coaches to complete using the lowest tier of D1 teams. There is also a huge learning curve associated with this game. When you couple those things together, I'd really recommend spending at least 7-10 seasons in D2/D3 so you get the basics of the game down before jumping to D1. I do prefer D1 (and think baseline prestige in vital to the LT success of the game) but many new coaches race to get to D1 and then get steamrolled by experienced coaches playing with loaded dice. That's why I recommend spending a bit of time in the lower divisions till you understand the fundamentals of the game AND success at those levels will help you get a more formidable team when you do go to D1.

Posted by texashick on 1/3/2023 1:32:00 PM (view original):
This response is really not the question you have asked but I think it's worth dropping here. D2/D3 are what i call "balanced" games meaning all teams are basically on a equal footing and any recruit the best teams can get, the lowest prestige teams also have a decent shot to recruit. The limited number of human coaches in D2/D3 relative to D1 also significantly improve your chances of being successful in the lower divisions.

D1 is unbalanced. The best teams have a massive advantage due to a game feature called baseline prestige. It's nearly impossible for even the best and most experienced coaches to complete using the lowest tier of D1 teams. There is also a huge learning curve associated with this game. When you couple those things together, I'd really recommend spending 7-10 seasons in D2/D3 so you get the basics of the game down before jumping to D1. I do prefer D1 (and think baseline prestige in vital to the LT success of the game) but many new coaches race to get to D1 and then get steamrolled by experienced coaches playing with loaded dice. That's why I recommend spending a bit of time in the lower divisions till you understand the fundamentals of the game AND success at those levels will help you get a more formidable team when you do go to D1.

When I first played Hoops Dynasty when it was a brand new game (2004 I think?) I like most was in a race to get to D1. When I started playing again about two years ago, I'm content staying in D2 and D3 trying to build something. But everyone is going to have their own preference.

How long to stay is a different question entirely. And I agree with both posts above. Hell stay for 50-100 seasons in the lower divisions. Maybe not with one team. But definitely spend some time learning the ins and outs. It helped me develop the knowledge I have today.

Also. unrelated, but it’s possible to even make big jumps. I jumped from D2 straight to D1 Kansas. It was the perfect storm when it happened (my D2 success was solid and Kansas was at its low point, but still an A+ Baseline job in D1). It’s not the norm but it can be done.

find your groove first

I don't particularly enjoy the Early Entries and RNG rolls for recruits in D1 now.

I have always liked D2 better strictly from a game play perspective. But it is fun to get in a decent D1 conference and a decent baseline prestige team. I am currently doing 1 D1 and 2 D2 teams. Everyone has their own preference.