Biblical Precepts Topic

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 5/11/2023 2:22:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bruceleefan on 5/11/2023 2:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bagchucker3 on 5/11/2023 1:45:00 PM (view original):
Ten Commandments



1:1

i freed your *** now you are mine for eternity



1:2

i'm a jealous moofer doofer. i will kill yer grandkids



1:3

you curse me you die



1:4

you get one day off. make damn sure you spend it on me



1:5-10

lesser commandments

neighborhood sh*t, not god sh*t
Clarifications & Corrections:

1) You were his for eternity from the beginning. Just as the clay belongs to the Potter.

2) Anything you value more than the Creator you do at your own peril. Not unlike the child that values playing more than studying. Fun for the moment but dreadful for their future selves.

3) duh

4) Again what seems to a child to be tedious and unnecessary is actually the best thing to replenish a tired & worn body & mind and to refresh & renew your mind to ready yourself for the coming week.

5-10) not lesser to any degree, but rather just a shift in focus from your relationship with the Lord outlined in 1-4, to how to conduct yourselves in your relationships with one another.

No illusion of "forgiveness" by keeping the 1st four
Naturally the above is your opinion because it is not provable and if there is a God that is omnipotent only He/ She/Them can know and understand what is in a person’s heart and mind IMO.

IMO no person should speak for a God that they believe in especially faith vs faith.
I'd argue that rather than my "opinion" they represent my sincere understanding of these commandments and are fairly well supported by cross reference verses.

The nex point about only an omniscient God can know what's in another's heart and mind is something I absolutely agree with, but do not understand how that's relevant to any degree in this portion of the discussion.

Did my attempt to explain the commandments somehow seem to indicate that I thought I could know what was in another's heart?
5/11/2023 2:53 PM

I am only referring to the God given right to have alternative views that have nothing to do with a bible.

In a discussion of Biblical precepts?

Seems hardly relevant in that context.
5/11/2023 3:06 PM
Posted by bruceleefan on 5/11/2023 3:06:00 PM (view original):

I am only referring to the God given right to have alternative views that have nothing to do with a bible.

In a discussion of Biblical precepts?

Seems hardly relevant in that context.
Ok I did not realize that this thread is only for the believers who take everything written in the Bible as faith.
I did not realize that it wasn’t for non believers and that is perfectly fine.
5/11/2023 3:21 PM
I will delete my posts that did not conform with the intent of the thread which I misunderstood.
5/11/2023 3:25 PM
OK Dino. Now how about that Elvis Costello LP list complete with your analysis of the relative magnificance lyrical astuteness, and overall importance of each of your Top 10 Costello releases?

Surely you have that ready to go.
5/11/2023 3:51 PM
Posted by Lennybruce26 on 5/11/2023 3:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bruceleefan on 5/11/2023 3:06:00 PM (view original):

I am only referring to the God given right to have alternative views that have nothing to do with a bible.

In a discussion of Biblical precepts?

Seems hardly relevant in that context.
Ok I did not realize that this thread is only for the believers who take everything written in the Bible as faith.
I did not realize that it wasn’t for non believers and that is perfectly fine.
I don't mind discussing the validity or lack thereof, but it was clear that's not what you were doing either, because there was a misunderstanding which you've acknowledged.

I enjoy the input you provide in most instances and it's typically done in a respectful and well reasoned manner.
5/11/2023 4:17 PM
As far as I am concerned, this thread is for anyone who has something to say; but related to Faith, God, The Bible, Salvation.. preferably from a Biblical concept. I do not expect the unbeliever to do likewise .. because unless they are in the Lord, they cannot do this. This can go well, if we show at least a measure of respect for one another.. Posting to this comment with something along the lines of 'what a bad Christian' I am will only sink the boat. Too much name calling accomplishes nothing

5/11/2023 5:57 PM
Jesus told Peter that he would deny even knowing Jesus, and Peter later did just that.

Bible trivia question: How many times did the rooster crow?


5/11/2023 6:00 PM
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5/11/2023 6:09 PM
Posted by laramiebob on 5/11/2023 3:51:00 PM (view original):
OK Dino. Now how about that Elvis Costello LP list complete with your analysis of the relative magnificance lyrical astuteness, and overall importance of each of your Top 10 Costello releases?

Surely you have that ready to go.
I'm telling you that ain'r dino
5/11/2023 6:45 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 5/11/2023 6:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 5/11/2023 3:51:00 PM (view original):
OK Dino. Now how about that Elvis Costello LP list complete with your analysis of the relative magnificance lyrical astuteness, and overall importance of each of your Top 10 Costello releases?

Surely you have that ready to go.
I'm telling you that ain'r dino


5/11/2023 6:46 PM
Catfish ain't expensive, neither is it cheap.
Some folks crazy bout it, some folks leave it be.
5/11/2023 6:47 PM
Catfishin' can get pretty expensive at $13 a pop!
5/11/2023 6:50 PM
So, back to the nature of God and how we are created in His image.

When we say that God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. What does all that mean EXACTLY?

Very hard to wrap our human mind around such lofty thoughts in order that we actually understand it. Some will argue we cannot. I’ll concede that while we cannot FULLY grasp what it means, we certainly have the capacity to have some sort of idea and make some observations about it.

We can think of it as “All the potential that could possibly exist across the entire universe and across all of time”.

To better understand what THAT means, we must pause and take a look at more tangible earthly ideas and concepts.

Tomorrow is unknown to us all. The potential is ever abundant. You could not go to work and play video games all day. You could go to work and simply follow your routine. You could decide to call out of work and go on an impromptu vacation. Etc, etc.
Before you take some action in one direction or the other, they are all equally possible.
Let’s think of this as the chaos of uncertainty.

It is literally a void of nothingness until your actions bring one of the infinite number of possibilities into reality.
In a sense you are “creating” your future.

Let's say you imagine "I want to lose 30 pounds and become more fit".

So, you begin a change in diet and begin a workout regimen until eventually you become this new version of you THAT YOU CREATED.

No one could’ve done it but you and you could never have become this new version of you without first having that vision.
You brought this reality into being by acting like you believed in this vision and making decisions accordingly.

You CREATED a different reality than that which would exist if you hadn’t made any changes to your daily routine.

This is true in the believer and the non-believer because it is a fundamental TRUTH.

So hopefully that demonstrates how even frail & faulty creatures have tremendous capacity to effect change and create a great many number of futures for ourselves.

Let’s imagine now that you found a genie lamp and you aren’t limited to 3 wishes but infinite wishes. What would you do?

You might indulge in all of your fleshly desires but at some point they all become satisfied and yet you will ever want something else. ALWAYS something else. Think about it.

Whatever your wildest fantasy, it will only satisfy for a very limited amount of time and then you need something else. We are creatures of adventure. We are never satisfied with what is, nor can we be.

Now let’s return to the idea of God’s eternality.
All knowing, ever present.
What can you DO with THAT? NOTHING.
In order to have any meaning, He must CREATE. Just as we must.

What does the Bible say?

Genesis begins with:

“In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
3 Then God said,…”

So what is happening here?

Well, the ever powerful “all the potential yada yada” that we looked at earlier, we can define THAT as being “without form and void and darkness was on the face of the deep”.

ALL the potential without restrictions of time, space or knowledge, but being used for NOTHING.

Until what? Until God “SAID”.

He took an ever infinite array of possibilities and potentials and began saying specific things, which brought them into existence.
Again, how was this done? HE SAID.
In a previous post I tried to explain the revealed plurality embodied in God. I didn’t go into detail but it was fairly clear that the nature of God was one of plurality.

One part of that plurality is the Son.

The book of John begins with:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God".

Here we see that the Son is the very part of God, that brought forth creation. How? God said.

When he spoke, obviously he spoke using The Word.
5/11/2023 11:19 PM (edited)
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