Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/17/2023 10:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/17/2023 10:17:00 PM (view original):
for probably about the 10th time, I never said everyone was "in the same boat". Obviously, not every politician (or person) is the same. Some are awful, some are decent, but none of them are completely honest.

Meaningless - totally -
Is there a person in the history of mankind completely honest. Kindergartners know that so why say it as if it means something.

You have never directly compared the parties and their members.

You just keep saying no one in either party is perfect.
Im sorry Wylie but Duh

Posted by lostnfound74 on 7/18/2023 10:32:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/17/2023 10:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 7/17/2023 10:17:00 PM (view original):
for probably about the 10th time, I never said everyone was "in the same boat". Obviously, not every politician (or person) is the same. Some are awful, some are decent, but none of them are completely honest.

Meaningless - totally -
Is there a person in the history of mankind completely honest. Kindergartners know that so why say it as if it means something.

You have never directly compared the parties and their members.

You just keep saying no one in either party is perfect.
Im sorry Wylie but Duh

* Is there a person in the history of mankind completely honest. *

All mankind has sinned and

has fallen short of the Glory of God.

Only One has ever been totally honest, and wicked man spiked him to a cross

He was guilty of nothing ever, and so therefore took the rap for us all

Posted by DougOut on 7/19/2023 11:37:00 AM (view original):
When you were DINO, you defended Israel and got your butt kicked by your leftist supporters here. I won't call them your friends because they don't really care about you. You're just cheap entertainment to them.

Now....Did you get back on your anxiety meds and talk to your doctor like I told you?

Posted by DougOut on 7/19/2023 11:37:00 AM (view original):
When you were DINO, you defended Israel and got your butt kicked by your leftist supporters here. I won't call them your friends because they don't really care about you. You're just cheap entertainment to them.

Now....Did you get back on your anxiety meds and talk to your doctor like I told you?

Posted by DougOut on 7/19/2023 11:58:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/19/2023 11:44:00 AM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 7/19/2023 11:37:00 AM (view original):
When you were DINO, you defended Israel and got your butt kicked by your leftist supporters here. I won't call them your friends because they don't really care about you. You're just cheap entertainment to them.

Now....Did you get back on your anxiety meds and talk to your doctor like I told you?

If being outnumbered by people showing a severe animus to Israel is getting ones butt kicked you are correct and that is about them not me.
The one comment that I always keep in my mind is the guy who compared Jews to Nazis and then in order to excuse what he said claims to have never known a jewish person.

Now get back to your knitting or walking with a book on your head you knitwit.

You're not taking your meds, are you? I didn't think so. I can tell by all the hatred and anger you spewed over the past 10 days. I was hoping you would take my advice. You're quite uneven right now and you need to level off.

As to your Israel rant....the Dems voted overwhelmingly with the Republicans in support of the Jewish nation. I think there were about seven racists Israelaphobic Dems that voted against it.


CULTURE / DOUGLAS ANDREWS

Open Season on Jews

Here's a story on it.

Posted by gomiami1972 on 7/19/2023 9:56:00 AM (view original):
Isreal and Iran are both concerns. There's been very high militancy and nationalism in that part of the world sice recorded history began.

That entire area has been f*cked since long before the Balfour Declaration of 1917, since the "Sick Man or Europe" Ottoman Empire collapsed a few years later, since the British and French screwed the pooch on the partitioning, the 1948 Arab-Isreali War and so on.

You want to blame a political ideology of today for those problems, try reading a history book or two.

Posted by Lennybruce26 on 7/19/2023 11:12:00 AM (view original):
Let’s start at 1947-8 because if we are going to deal strictly in reality that’s where we start and go to the Palestinian right of return since the first war and see very very clearly how one demand has destroyed every attempt of peace. Especially the Clinton effort that was finished - yes there was a peace agreement until Arafat demanded the totally impossible right of return of scores of millions at the very end after everything else including Jerusalem was tied up. If it wasn’t finished it was 99% done.
Clinton was ready to be crowned savior until that happened and thus his comments about how Arafat made him humiliated and feel like a fool.

Same ever since until Israel just ended up snapping ( a bad thing ) when the right wing took control and now the chances of a peace process is like one of us winning the power ball.

I think it was 2008 when the Palestinians were warned
that it was the final opportunity before the right wingers took over and it was literally the honest truth that they were told.

I am a big detester of Netanyahu and the whole FU right wing mentality and I won’t defend him and the settlers BUT it takes 2 to tango and the Palestinians were warned repeatedly with sincerity what was going to happen and they rejected the advice of the United States and other democracies around the world.

I commend the Wikipedia article on the Palestinian right of return.
some who are not familiar with it I will give this terse verse of the curse of the worst idea any peacemaker could ever devise.

Here it is - somewhere in the neighborhood of at least 5 million Palestinians including those that settled in other countries would be able to enter Israel and become automatic citizens. Obviously they would take over the country.

There are those who agree with glee that they should be able to physically and religiously and militarily destroy the Jewish state and I will sit back and let them have their go at it.

But it cannot be argued that there could ever be peace if that remains a demand.
At various times Israel was willing to let I think it was 250,000 mostly older Palestinians return as full citizens.


The right of return remaining extant is the - reason why the peace process is dead.

It is the dirty stinkin secret of the real story.

typed but not read
dog can find spelling errors and typos.

Posted by bagchucker3 on 7/19/2023 1:12:00 PM (view original):
i don know what the iran equivalent to zion is but you two sound like you could be right there

if only your conservativity bone allowed you the flexibility to harken back another thousand years

then by god you'd be isis