Posted by ermocito on 12/5/2023 9:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by 3dayrotation on 12/5/2023 9:08:00 AM (view original):
96 hours, by the way...

Lenny is daggering Leo Cardenas but is unsure about stadium. See question on prior page about Twins and Yankees.
Do you think there are more than two stadiums to consider inside WIS?

i can't seem to find the question...

i have these 4 stadiums

1.Yankee Stadium (I) (57 yankees)
2. Crosley Field (67 reds)
3. Metropolitan Stadium (77 twins)
4. San Diego Stadium (77 padres)

Ballpark (Location)	Franchise (Years)	Effects					Park Factor
		1B	2B	3B	HR LF	HR RF
Yankee Stadium (I) New York, NY	New York Yankees 1923-1973	-2	0	1	-1	-1	0.9
Riverfront Stadium Cincinnati, OH	Cincinnati Reds 1970-1996	-2	2	0	1	1	0.9
Metropolitan Stadium Minneapolis, MN	Minnesota Twins 1961-1981	2	0	2	1	1	1.07
San Diego Stadium San Diego, CA	San Diego Padres 1969-1979	0	-2	-1	0	-1	0.9

Posted by 3dayrotation on 12/5/2023 9:59:00 AM (view original):

Ballpark (Location)	Franchise (Years)	Effects					Park Factor
		1B	2B	3B	HR LF	HR RF
Yankee Stadium (I) New York, NY	New York Yankees 1923-1973	-2	0	1	-1	-1	0.9
Riverfront Stadium Cincinnati, OH	Cincinnati Reds 1970-1996	-2	2	0	1	1	0.9
Metropolitan Stadium Minneapolis, MN	Minnesota Twins 1961-1981	2	0	2	1	1	1.07
San Diego Stadium San Diego, CA	San Diego Padres 1969-1979	0	-2	-1	0	-1	0.9

I mis-spoke. It was San Diego and Yankees (I) which are not appearing here. https://www.whatifsports.com/mlb-l/balYour lparks.asp?lid=0 (see below)

I recall typing it, not just in backchannel messages, but I cannot find it either.

Your numbers for Minn and Cinci DO match what we can see, so I asked lenyistall to make a decision based on the numbers as you provided them. I expect to get an answer this morning.


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Rogers Centre Toronto, Ontario	Toronto Blue Jays 2005-2023	T	328	375	400	375	328	10	10	10	-2	+2	0	+1	+1	1.03
Royals Stadium Kansas City, MO	Kansas City Royals 1973-1993	T	330	375	410	375	330	8	8	8	+1	+2	+3	-2	-2	1.06
Safeco Field Seattle, WA	Seattle Mariners 1999-2023	G	331	388	405	385	326	8	8	8	-2	-2	-1	-2	-2	0.88
Shea Stadium New York, NY	New York Mets 1964-2008	G	338	378	410	378	338	8	8	8	0	-1	-1	-1	-1	0.93
Shea Stadium New York, NY	New York Yankees 1974-1975	G	338	378	410	378	338	8	8	8	0	-1	-1	-1	-1	0.93
Shibe Park Philadelphia, PA	Philadelphia Athletics 1909-1952	G	334	405	468	393	329	12	20	30	+2	0	0	0	0	0.99
Sportsman's Park (III) St. Louis, MO	St. Louis Cardinals 1920-1966	G	351	379	420	354	309	11.5	11.5	37	0	+3	0	0	+1	1.08
Target Field Minneapolis, MN	Minnesota Twins 2010-2023	G	328	371	402	371	331	8	8	8	0	+1	+1	-4	-4	0.96
Three Rivers Stadium Pittsburgh, PA	Pittsburgh Pirates 1970-2000	T	335	375	400	375	335	10	10	10	-1	+1	0	0	0	1.00
Tiger Stadium Detroit, MI	Detroit Tigers 1961-1999	G	340	365	440	370	325	6.5	5.5	6.5	-1	-1	0	+2	+2	1.04
Tropicana Field St. Petersburg, FL	Tampa Bay Rays 1998-2023	T	315	370	407	370	322	9.5	9.5	9.5	-1	0	+1	-1	-1	0.97
Truist Park Cumberland, GA	Atlanta Braves 2017-2023	G	335	375	400	375	325	8	8	8	+1	+1	-2	-1	-1	0.98
Turner Field Atlanta, GA	Atlanta Braves 1997-2016	G	335	380	401	390	330	8	8	8	-1	-1	0	-1	-1	0.95
U.S. Cellular Field Chicago, IL	Chicago White Sox 2003-2023	G	347	375	400	375	347	8	8	8	0	-1	-1	+1	+1	1.02
Veterans Stadium Philadelphia, PA	Philadelphia Phillies 1971-2003	T	330	371	408	371	330	12	12	12	-2	+2	+1	0	0	1.03
Wrigley Field Chicago, IL	Chicago Cubs 1926-2023	G	355	353	402	368	353	16	11	15	+2	0	-1	+2	+2	1.05
Yankee Stadium (II) New York, NY	New York Yankees 1976-2008	G	318	399	408	385	314	8	7	10	0	-1	-1	0	0	0.95
Yankee Stadium (III) Bronx, NY	New York Yankees 2009-2023	G	318	399	408	385	314	8	7	10	+1	-1	-3	+3	+4	1.07

Re: Stadiums

If you join a standard Open League, there are a smaller number of stadium options available. Only through Theme League creation can you open up the full list of all parks. Somewhere there is a post where someone pasted all the parks and factors. I just know I often have to go check Ballparks in one of my existing Theme Leagues rather than relying on the list offered in Open Leagues.

Posted by jbar8888 on 12/5/2023 8:43:00 AM (view original):
Midknight - you a clear to dagger my 1927 Reds.

jbarr - The starting pitching on the '27 Reds is strong and deep, and they do not have much in the way of a bullpen. Taking out one of their pitchers doesn't seem like it would matter to you. Their hitting is very average where the most valuable piece may be Bubbles Hargrave at catcher. You may be in a platoon situation for your overall team at catcher but I'm going let Bubbles survive. I turned my attention to shortstop where Hod Ford ($2.5M) and Pee-Wee Wanninger ($.5M) are pretty lame. You have 3 other shortstops: Bill Russell ($4.5M), Rob Picciolo ($1.4M), and Eddie Miller ($3.9M). None of these guys have a secondary position so you would be locked in with any of them at short. I think Eddie Miller is your best option to start, but you may choose to go with Russell. Hod Ford is a waste which is why I believe I am going to guarantee he makes your roster. I'm going to dagger the other Pee Wee, Pee-Wee Wanninger and his $514K salary and his $1M savings over Ford as your back-up shortstop. Cheers!

So I made a Team by Loading Four Tabs with the Four Rosters with a Fifth to Enter Players and it was not overawing :) ... So when will the DeadLine be ?

Daggered : 1947 Kirby Higbe --- 1977 Atlanta Braves Jeff Burroughs and Fulton County Stadium

Posted by 3dayrotation on 12/5/2023 9:52:00 AM (view original):

Posted by ermocito on 12/5/2023 9:21:00 AM (view original):

Posted by 3dayrotation on 12/5/2023 9:08:00 AM (view original):
96 hours, by the way...

Lenny is daggering Leo Cardenas but is unsure about stadium. See question on prior page about Twins and Yankees.
Do you think there are more than two stadiums to consider inside WIS?

i can't seem to find the question...

i have these 4 stadiums

1.Yankee Stadium (I) (57 yankees)
2. Crosley Field (67 reds)
3. Metropolitan Stadium (77 twins)
4. San Diego Stadium (77 padres)

"I’ll dagger Yankee Stadium."
- lennyistall

Please remind Lenny to tell me which team I can dagger #2.

Posted by vilefileman on 12/2/2023 11:29:00 AM (view original):
lennyistall you may dagger from our 27 Robins

Also will dagger Watty Clark

Posted by redcped on 12/5/2023 12:13:00 PM (view original):
Please remind Lenny to tell me which team I can dagger #2.

"will offer the 37 Phillies to dagger"

Posted by Ribbentrop on 12/5/2023 12:03:00 PM (view original):
So I made a Team by Loading Four Tabs with the Four Rosters with a Fifth to Enter Players and it was not overawing :) ... So when will the DeadLine be ?

Daggered : 1947 Kirby Higbe --- 1977 Atlanta Braves Jeff Burroughs and Fulton County Stadium

I probably can't check teams after noon on Thursday or Friday (wedding officiant), but I would love to clear the last rosters by Friday morning.
So, let's target Thursday - but that probably means getting the daggers finished today. I am still missing one r1 dagger and 6 nearly 10 for r2.
Of course, I actually want to start sooner - but this is a complex draft process.
I think all of the daggers thrown so far are updated on page 1 (near the bottom), but feel free to search your name and remind me if I missed any.

3DayRotation you have 3 SS and two of them can not play any other position.

So you can have your 1300ABs for Roy Smalley and Bill Almon and say goodbye to Gil McDougald

Posted by vilefileman on 12/5/2023 12:33:00 PM (view original):
3DayRotation you have 3 SS and two of them can not play any other position.

So you can have your 1300ABs for Roy Smalley and Bill Almon and say goodbye to Gil McDougald

wtf. i had bobby valentine on my list and am just now realizing he doesn't count. i will be in last place.

Boys of the NYPD Choir
Home Park: Yankee Stadium (I)

1977 Philadelphia Phillies

• 1977 Terry Harmon (2B) - $229,190
• 1977 Greg Luzinski (OF) - $5,509,872
• 1977 Bake McBride (OF) - $3,244,050
• 1977 Steve Carlton (P) - $8,938,963
• 1977 Ron Reed (P) - $3,554,816
• 1977 Gene Garber (P) - $3,400,614
• 1977 Tug McGraw (P) - $2,226,634

1927 Boston Braves

• 1927 Frank Gibson (C) - $1,088,659
• 1927 Andy High (3B) - $2,418,750
• 1927 Jimmy Welsh (OF) - $4,147,778
• 1927 Jack Smith (OF) - $1,395,649
• 1927 Art Mills (P) - $591,871
• 1927 Guy Morrison (P) - $511,333

1967 New York Yankees

• 1967 Mickey Mantle (1B) - $3,712,736
• 1967 Mike Hegan (1B) - $437,852
• 1967 John Kennedy (SS) - $775,378
• 1967 Al Downing (P) - $5,604,918
• 1967 Bill Monbouquette (P) - $3,431,340
• 1967 Joe Verbanic (P) - $1,648,403

1977 Texas Rangers

• 1977 Jim Sundberg (C) - $4,553,774
• 1977 Bump Wills (2B) - $5,721,258
• 1977 Toby Harrah (3B) - $4,701,559
• 1977 Bert Campaneris (SS) - $4,502,358
• 1977 Sandy Alomar (UT/OF) - $427,474
• 1977 Bert Blyleven (P) - $7,182,138

Broken out by position:

C	TEX	1977 Jim Sundberg
C	BSN	1927 Frank Gibson
1B	NYY	1967 Mickey Mantle
1B	NYY	1967 Mike Hegan
2B	TEX	1977 Bump Wills
2B	PHL	1977 Terry Harmon
3B	TEX	1977 Toby Harrah
3B	BSN	1927 Andy High
SS	TEX	1977 Bert Campaneris
SS	NYY	1967 John Kennedy
OF	PHL	1977 Greg Luzinski
OF	BSN	1927 Jimmy Welsh
OF	PHL	1977 Bake McBride
OF	BSN	1927 Jack Smith
OF	TEX	1977 Sandy Alomar
P	PHL	1977 Steve Carlton
P	TEX	1977 Bert Blyleven
P	NYY	1967 Al Downing
P	PHL	1977 Ron Reed
P	PHL	1977 Gene Garber
P	NYY	1967 Bill Monbouquette
P	NYY	1967 Joe Verbanic
P	PHL	1977 Tug McGraw
P	BSN	1927 Art Mills
P	BSN	1927 Guy Morrison

I think this team should have pretty competitive run prevention. The rotation is short but is sound. The bullpen is deep. The fielding is strong up the middle. The ballpark skews towards pitchers.

The hitting is worrisome. If McBride could play everyday, I'd be less concerned. But when he sits, the lineup is going to be very thin.