Savage XIII Rosters/Commentary Topic

Also, I had Kawhi and he was a complete dud. It was a really weak 5 team overall performance. Yet all I've done is lose to him since. I've actually grown to hate him all because of this game.
12/20/2023 9:35 AM
Posted by robusk on 12/20/2023 9:34:00 AM (view original):
Posted by steelers821 on 12/20/2023 9:30:00 AM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 12/20/2023 9:23:00 AM (view original):
Posted by steelers821 on 12/20/2023 8:16:00 AM (view original):


alright blind test which team is 16-5 and which is 8-13
min def 3s fp48 usage efg oreb dreb ast tov CREb
19325 74.14214748 507 20.38369987 108.6611902 55.50391409 36.93001294 98.3742044 70.32732212 13.08928959 135.3042173
19325 71.6683053 319 20.1727555 111.1490298 55.31911211 38.55937904 96.1531436 74.93751617 13.22724801 134.7125226
Well, two comments: 1) really unnecessary precision on your values there, makes it hard to read 2) not really enough statistical categories but...

off of what you posted I would bet good money that #2 is the superior team.
It only imports that way for some reason. In excel I keep it to two numbers. Team two also has a higher FTA48 (if there’s a better way to calculate foul rate I don’t know it) and ft%. Team two is the 16-5 team and I was expecting it to be better but I thought it would be close. Obviously this comes down to a combo of variance and schedule but I really didn’t think these two teams had very dissimilar stats.

just wondering what’s your reasoning for team 2>>>team 1?
Obviously you have to factor in division draw. In a neutral division, I think team two is always going to be a couple games better than team one. All that can get exacerbated by tough divisions / ones with teams that match up especially poorly.

The reason it is pasting weird is what you are seeing in the cell in Excel is a factor of cell size and not formatting. If you change the number formatting to reflect what you want it will paste properly.
Yeah makes sense. It’s not normally an issue until I paste but I’ll have to fix that. Also other than foul rate/ft% what else would I be missing? I guess I should probably have steak/block% but after than I’m running out of numbers to use lol.
12/20/2023 9:37 AM
Posted by dBKC on 12/20/2023 9:30:00 AM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 12/20/2023 9:23:00 AM (view original):
Posted by steelers821 on 12/20/2023 8:16:00 AM (view original):


alright blind test which team is 16-5 and which is 8-13
min def 3s fp48 usage efg oreb dreb ast tov CREb
19325 74.14214748 507 20.38369987 108.6611902 55.50391409 36.93001294 98.3742044 70.32732212 13.08928959 135.3042173
19325 71.6683053 319 20.1727555 111.1490298 55.31911211 38.55937904 96.1531436 74.93751617 13.22724801 134.7125226
Well, two comments: 1) really unnecessary precision on your values there, makes it hard to read 2) not really enough statistical categories but...

off of what you posted I would bet good money that #2 is the superior team.
Idk they look about even to me.
I’m kind of 50.0000000/50.0000000 on this one
12/20/2023 9:37 AM
Posted by steelers821 on 12/20/2023 8:16:00 AM (view original):


alright blind test which team is 16-5 and which is 8-13
min def 3s fp48 usage efg oreb dreb ast tov CREb
19325 74.14214748 507 20.38369987 108.6611902 55.50391409 36.93001294 98.3742044 70.32732212 13.08928959 135.3042173
19325 71.6683053 319 20.1727555 111.1490298 55.31911211 38.55937904 96.1531436 74.93751617 13.22724801 134.7125226
The 16-5 is the one with the easier division draw ;-)
12/20/2023 9:40 AM
This is what I usually look at:
2P%
3PM
3P%
PER%
MID%
PNT%
OREB%
DREB%
CREB%
AST%
TO%
STL%
BLK%
Defense
F/G
FTA/G
12/20/2023 9:40 AM
Posted by robusk on 12/20/2023 9:40:00 AM (view original):
This is what I usually look at:
2P%
3PM
3P%
PER%
MID%
PNT%
OREB%
DREB%
CREB%
AST%
TO%
STL%
BLK%
Defense
F/G
FTA/G
Thank you. I try to balance my team but adding per/mid/pnt has always seemed like a pain in the ***.
12/20/2023 9:44 AM
Talk about a tough division. In World 4 I am currently listed as 5th place in the division, but 4th place in the conference. There are 5 12-9 teams in that division.

12/20/2023 9:44 AM
My experiment to focus a lot more on offense/shooting has been a fail. My PPG is average, which i suppose is up compared with the last 5-8 seasons. But I was going for top 5. Turning the ball over way too much, fouling too much. Traded missed shots for TO's. ugh. dBKC and Ben seem to have figured it out, but it's early and we'll see if it holds through conference play.

Back to the drawing board next time. I hope we wait for the new players to introduce some variance.
12/20/2023 9:48 AM
Posted by jcred5 on 12/20/2023 9:48:00 AM (view original):
My experiment to focus a lot more on offense/shooting has been a fail. My PPG is average, which i suppose is up compared with the last 5-8 seasons. But I was going for top 5. Turning the ball over way too much, fouling too much. Traded missed shots for TO's. ugh. dBKC and Ben seem to have figured it out, but it's early and we'll see if it holds through conference play.

Back to the drawing board next time. I hope we wait for the new players to introduce some variance.
I don't know if the experiment was wrong. dBKC is tied with you for the worst TO% in the league (15.8). You are 5th worst in FPG and he is 9th worst (20.2 and 19.5 respectively). He is first in TS% and you are 2nd (58.1 and 57.4 respectively). You are both right above average in terms of opponent TS% (55.3 for him and 55.5 for you). Right now the biggest differentiator between you and him is the extra 3% of oreb% he is getting per game (26.0% for versus 28.9% for him).
12/20/2023 10:06 AM (edited)
Posted by robusk on 12/19/2023 10:27:00 PM (view original):
Seems to me that the reason my team might be *** is that my 12th round pick is playing the 5th most minutes of anyone on my squad. Just ran the numbers and that is way too much Rasheed. My 5th round pick is playing the 3rd least... every single time I fall in this trap with Timelord. Also the seasons I chose are supposed to shoot 35% not 29% man, wtf!

Right now it looks like dBKC and 24kpyrite will run away with regular season wins and both will probably get all 5. 24k looks like he has 1 real solid 'ship contender and dBKC has 2. ben, steelers, jhsukow, jcred5, ty84moss, edsortails, Midge and raggedclaws also look to have a 'ship contender or two.

dBKC and 24kpyrite probably the heavy favorites at this point followed by ben and raggedclaws followed by jcred5 followed by the field.

Of course, we gotta get a full out of conference cycle. There were some real red flags with out of division play round one. Almost 30 wins difference between the hardest draws and the weakest.
I’m not letting you reverse-jinx yourself that easily, Mr. 5-in the playoffs and 2nd most wins. You’re my favorite to win the whole thing
12/21/2023 2:50 PM
Posted by dBKC on 12/21/2023 2:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 12/19/2023 10:27:00 PM (view original):
Seems to me that the reason my team might be *** is that my 12th round pick is playing the 5th most minutes of anyone on my squad. Just ran the numbers and that is way too much Rasheed. My 5th round pick is playing the 3rd least... every single time I fall in this trap with Timelord. Also the seasons I chose are supposed to shoot 35% not 29% man, wtf!

Right now it looks like dBKC and 24kpyrite will run away with regular season wins and both will probably get all 5. 24k looks like he has 1 real solid 'ship contender and dBKC has 2. ben, steelers, jhsukow, jcred5, ty84moss, edsortails, Midge and raggedclaws also look to have a 'ship contender or two.

dBKC and 24kpyrite probably the heavy favorites at this point followed by ben and raggedclaws followed by jcred5 followed by the field.

Of course, we gotta get a full out of conference cycle. There were some real red flags with out of division play round one. Almost 30 wins difference between the hardest draws and the weakest.
I’m not letting you reverse-jinx yourself that easily, Mr. 5-in the playoffs and 2nd most wins. You’re my favorite to win the whole thing
Rob posting his team probably isn't very good followed by predictions other teams will out perform his is a time honored tradition. It's like Jim Nance in early April at Augusta. "Welcome friends, to another Rob Savage crown."

12/21/2023 7:33 PM
That image didn't paste very well....
12/21/2023 7:34 PM
If someone can find a successful case of a rationed minutes Rasheed team, much less than the 5th most minutes on their team... I'll go ahead and say it's short term success. I knew from mid-way through the draft this team was no good.

I am really enjoying a lot of the build's this season though. A lot of really fun and cool teams, lot's of unique takes. Some fresh names in the top 10. Fun season so far.
12/21/2023 11:01 PM (edited)
Has anyone else just decide to completely change 25mins worth of playing time on one of there teams? Usually whatever I decide preseason I stick to but my second best team has been so **** and I refuse to elt it just go down without a fight.
12/22/2023 11:36 AM
I change my lineup almost every single game on some teams. My weakest 1/2 teams usually have a few options on the bench that I can bring in and out to try to make a good matchup against my opponent
12/22/2023 11:41 AM
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