I'll post my team summary here instead of discord because I messed up trying to type it there.

Conley/Mookie
Erving/Edwards/English
Porter/Horford/English/Aldridge
Wallace/Unseld
Kemp/Sabonis/Aldridge

I'm thinking another slightly above average finish. As usual I think I laid a good foundation in the first few rounds then didn't use my picks in the middle/late rounds as well as others. Defense should be very good and we should pile up plenty of stocks. Assists should be fine; rebounding should be solid; we have plenty of threes from the PG and SF positions. I tried to prioritize lower TO% later on and hopefully that will be a relative strength even with Kemp on board. Same for fouls. But ultimately I think efg% is going to be a weakness and just don't think my team is going to score well enough to be a real contender. I hope I'm wrong.

BTW I probably reached on Aldridge in the 10th considering he has only been drafted in Savage twice, but IMO he's a guy that should go every year. Yeah, the boards suck, but I really like his Spurs-era seasons; super clean, high-usage seasons with decent D and enough boards to stay afloat. Plus then he has a random 1000-minute SF season (21-22) that is very good and will help fill out my SF rotation.

Lillard/Murray/Booker
Hart/Achiuwa/Booker
Boucher/Bridges/Achiuwa/Hart
Adebayo/Holmgren/Nurkic
Jordan/Kessler/Nurkic

If there is one pick I would have redone, it was Bridges. I felt that I needed the rebounds and defense from him, but I feel that I could have done a better job with that pick. I also shifted gears toward bigs and guards along with shorter minute/season high-value players a bit early. I could've done a better job of filling out minutes at the SF position earlier in the draft. I feel this is my best effort so far, which should be enough to stop me from getting relegated.

Posted by PBandJ on 6/13/2024 2:57:00 PM (view original):
Lillard/Murray/Booker
Hart/Achiuwa/Booker
Boucher/Bridges/Achiuwa/Hart
Adebayo/Holmgren/Nurkic
Jordan/Kessler/Nurkic

If there is one pick I would have redone, it was Bridges. I felt that I needed the rebounds and defense from him, but I feel that I could have done a better job with that pick. I also shifted gears toward bigs and guards along with shorter minute/season high-value players a bit early. I could've done a better job of filling out minutes at the SF position earlier in the draft. I feel this is my best effort so far, which should be enough to stop me from getting relegated.

I have Lillard/Murray/Booker next to two similar bigs (Gobert and Capela) in URAPP and it’s been doing really well for me. Good build.

Posted by PBandJ on 6/13/2024 2:57:00 PM (view original):
Lillard/Murray/Booker
Hart/Achiuwa/Booker
Boucher/Bridges/Achiuwa/Hart
Adebayo/Holmgren/Nurkic
Jordan/Kessler/Nurkic

If there is one pick I would have redone, it was Bridges. I felt that I needed the rebounds and defense from him, but I feel that I could have done a better job with that pick. I also shifted gears toward bigs and guards along with shorter minute/season high-value players a bit early. I could've done a better job of filling out minutes at the SF position earlier in the draft. I feel this is my best effort so far, which should be enough to stop me from getting relegated.

There's a lot to like about this team. Good shooting efficiency, good boards, very good frontcourt D. The two weaknesses I see, one major and one fairly minor, are:

--Opposing guards are gonna have a field day with that guard rotation, with Dejounte as the only decent defender (and you have only a couple partial SF seasons you can use to shift anything above 60 D onto opposing guards). There will be a lot of times when you have two guys with D in the 30s and 40s out there, I was honestly really surprised you didn't use your 3rd or 4th pick to try to get someone with some backcourt D to cover for Lillard (selfishly i think you should have done it in the third so I could get Adebayo, lol)
--You're asking an awful lot of Nurkic as the sole backup big on the 2 teams that don't have either Kessler or Holmgren (I assume you're gonna have to shift Bill Bridges to play some PF/C minutes on those teams)

Here's what I'm rolling with. McHale plays some SF and Plumlee some PF, it's mostly based on usage point needs.

Delon/GPII/Caruso(1)
KD/Logo
Faried/AC Green(2.5)/Plumlee(3)
McHale/Porzingis (4)
Russell/Bamba(bits of 5)

The defense is awesome, with guard defense being particularly consistent. I learned from playing meh defenders next to KD. We're very clean, and I'm shooting far more FTs than normal, though fewer 3s and more midrange. I think I can overcome this with some game-planning. Rebounds are in a range I'm comfortable with.

Shooting and passing are just ok. I'm counting on the cleanliness, free throw game, and defense carrying me to contention. Very different from my offense-first squad last season.

Payton / Oladipo / Mitchell
Mitchell / Oladipo / Barnes / J Williams
Rodman / Claxton / Jackson
Barkley / Turner / Chriss
Turner / Lanier / Claxton

5 team weighted avgs: 110.2 usg, 55.3 efg, 75.3 ft%, 133.3 cReb (40.7 oReb, 92.6 dReb), 65.1 ast, 73.9 def, 569.4 3pm, 13.0 tov, 20.3 fouls/48

Frazier (Alvin Robertson/Charlie Ward in various form)
MJ (Gervin)
Bobby Jones or Larry Nance
Larry Nance or Dirk or Bobby Jones (JJ, one season)
Willis Reed (Nerlens Noel/Brook Lopez in various form)


We should defend pretty well. Very different from the last thing I tried which was all 3 point shooting all the time. (Spoiler: did not work at all)

Dwyane Wade / Steve Nash / Thaddeus Young
Kawhi Leonard / Zach Lavine / Thaddeus Young
Christian Wood / Richaun Holmes / Onyeka Okongwu / Thaddeus Young
Emeka Okafor / Anderson Varejao
Mitchell Robinson / Zelmo Beaty

jrue/manu/lonzo
manu/middleton/jrue/k.anderson/lonzo
portis/kg/mcdyess/spoon/kermit
kg/parish/biedrins/mcdyess
parish/kermit/biedrins


still trying to figure it all out but i feel like i have the pieces to make it work

getting every team to look how i want may be the highlight for me tho...i dont see this team making a serious run

beloud and dh's teams look pretty good to me. nc's could be good too - I always underrate Kawhi teams - but I worry about the bigs (not enough D; lots of mediocre Zelmo minutes). Overall D could be an issue too, because there are gonna be a lot of minutes with Kawhi/Wade on the bench and their backups drop off a bunch on D. Also assists might be an issue in all non-Nash lineups; you could be rolling out some lineups with, like, 40-45% ast.

Kammeyer’s self-evaluation

I always enjoy reading evals, never written one before so I'll make this simple.

Dwight Howard Hit (happy to get him with the 12th pick as I have him ranked as a top 6)

Artis Gilmore Neutral (great CReb’s but high on Tov’s)

Paul Pierce Miss (could have gotten him in the 5th round and reached for him in the 3rd round)

Chauncey Billups Hit (Maybe someone like Ben Simmons would have been a better pick, but a solid PG)

Ray Allen Neutral (solid 3-point shooter but will have to play some 96% effective minutes at PG)

Paul Millsap Hit (surprised I could get a quality SF in the 6th round)

Deandre Ayton Hit (good backup PF/C)

Amir Johnson Neutral (Steelers821 gave me a copy of the ADP by this stage of the draft, and I took him based off that. Might only use him on one team due to his low Ast%)

Kyle Korver Miss (I fell in love with his Efg, but he has little else to offer)

Rasheed Wallace Hit (only using him on one team but you can’t ask for much more this late in the draft)

Joe Ingles Neutral (shoots well, passes well, plays multiple positions, very high Tov% and terrible D)

Jameer Nelson Miss (Disastrous pick when you consider Kevin Johnson went undrafted. Zero value added across all five teams. Will probably be set to rest)

I did this draft on a cell phone and tracked all my players in my head. I won’t make that mistake again. Next time it’s all spreadsheets and buying the WIS six pack in advance and building my teams as I go. Because I tracked players in my head, I made the mistake of assuming some position effectiveness as well as ran low on team Ast% when Billups is on the bench. For example, that’s why I can only use Rasheed on one team. I would love to use him on more teams, but I don’t like falling below 50 Ast% at any one time during a game. Additionally, my overall team D is subpar.

The lesson I learned: Besides the aforementioned, I’m big on not holding up the draft. I like to make my picks as quickly as possible. In the next draft, I’ll take an extra 15 min and do better research when I get sniped. I got sniped at least five times in this draft, but that is something everyone must deal with.

Overall, I might have two teams make the playoffs. I have no title contenders, but I also think I won’t be relegated to the wait list. I grade my first Savage draft as a D+.

I don't have any reason to think that being transparent will generate benefit of the doubt the next time I say something, so I'm just going to say this for posterity and not respond to any responses.

Swen Nater is obviously a risk. He's not good for all but, like, two seasons, which are the ones I happen to need. It was a calculated risk, one that doesn't even get me to 19680 on one team, but I do like what he brings. In retrospect......I'm not comfortable sacrificing the guy I need for the guy I want in any situation, but I wish I could've had JJJ. He was pencilled in and he didn't make it to my next pick. dh warned me about that and it happened. I can live with the risk because [REDACTED] the last thing I'm going to do is try to explain anything I consider to be nuanced. I grade this pick a C but only in a vacuum. After the team building process is complete, it may work out fine.

OG Anunoby is fantastic for a few reasons, but I ended up using him less than I needed. Does that mean he wasn't worth an 8th round pick? .......see, I don't [REDACTED] nope, not going there. He's very very good and I don't regret the pick, but if I could've come up with something where I was confident that I could use two higher quality guys in different rounds that would make up those minutes, I would've liked to do that. I give this pick a B.

Trae Young works specifically for my team. His TS% is pretty high when including the 23-24 season for someone with his usage, which I needed. Here's another example of me picking four seasons instead of risking it and waiting for two with two different picks. I was running out of picks in the planning process, which meant I needed more minutes per picks, but I'm still happy with the result. He was the only one who could do what he did, and he's one of only a few Luka backups who make sense to me. I give this pick an A-.

Whiteside was a bigger risk than I actually realized when I made the pick - normally, I would credit someone for pointing something out, but right now I see no point in doing that. I ended up misappropriating 13.6% of his minutes, but in a way where I'm not uncomfortable. 86.4% of Whiteside with 99-100% effectiveness is better than, well, almost anyone else I could've picked for those minutes. The 13.6% of minutes out of position is a gamble, but, given the structure of the draft, I think it was still worth it. His value is quite high to me. I give this pick an A-, not because of what he brings to the table, but because of how I'm going to use him. It's a little janky.

Trey Murphy is someone I intended to use for one season and will end up using for two. He is bonafide in ways I hadn't considered when I picked him. I believe this is my best value pick in any draft, maybe in any league.

that's it, that's all I got. I'm waiting for the league numbers to drop. Good luck to everyone

Posted by kammeyer on 6/16/2024 12:40:00 PM (view original):

Kammeyer’s self-evaluation

I always enjoy reading evals, never written one before so I'll make this simple.

Dwight Howard Hit (happy to get him with the 12th pick as I have him ranked as a top 6)

Artis Gilmore Neutral (great CReb’s but high on Tov’s)

Paul Pierce Miss (could have gotten him in the 5th round and reached for him in the 3rd round)

Chauncey Billups Hit (Maybe someone like Ben Simmons would have been a better pick, but a solid PG)

Ray Allen Neutral (solid 3-point shooter but will have to play some 96% effective minutes at PG)

Paul Millsap Hit (surprised I could get a quality SF in the 6th round)

Deandre Ayton Hit (good backup PF/C)

Amir Johnson Neutral (Steelers821 gave me a copy of the ADP by this stage of the draft, and I took him based off that. Might only use him on one team due to his low Ast%)

Kyle Korver Miss (I fell in love with his Efg, but he has little else to offer)

Rasheed Wallace Hit (only using him on one team but you can’t ask for much more this late in the draft)

Joe Ingles Neutral (shoots well, passes well, plays multiple positions, very high Tov% and terrible D)

Jameer Nelson Miss (Disastrous pick when you consider Kevin Johnson went undrafted. Zero value added across all five teams. Will probably be set to rest)

I did this draft on a cell phone and tracked all my players in my head. I won’t make that mistake again. Next time it’s all spreadsheets and buying the WIS six pack in advance and building my teams as I go. Because I tracked players in my head, I made the mistake of assuming some position effectiveness as well as ran low on team Ast% when Billups is on the bench. For example, that’s why I can only use Rasheed on one team. I would love to use him on more teams, but I don’t like falling below 50 Ast% at any one time during a game. Additionally, my overall team D is subpar.

The lesson I learned: Besides the aforementioned, I’m big on not holding up the draft. I like to make my picks as quickly as possible. In the next draft, I’ll take an extra 15 min and do better research when I get sniped. I got sniped at least five times in this draft, but that is something everyone must deal with.

Overall, I might have two teams make the playoffs. I have no title contenders, but I also think I won’t be relegated to the wait list. I grade my first Savage draft as a D+.

You can just build in Sheets/Excel if you don’t want to drop the $ yet, that’s what I do sometimes.

I would recommend putting your best “DNP” guys on the teams that you have the most question marks around. That way if we’re a couple weeks into the season and you don’t like the way a team is performing, you can swap in a good Rasheed/Jameer/Amir season and see if it helps.

You did well considering the limited tools you were giving yourself (not looking at ADP, etc) and for it being your first draft. I’d recommend taking a good look at Artis’ season options. Most people here strictly used 5 of his more expensive/high minute seasons until we collectively realized that a few of his high FG% seasons later on are probably better than his 4th/5th best high $ seasons.

I think if we pretend you got Pierce in the 5th and give your team an extra 3rd like Ibaka or J Kidd or Walton or whoever, then you’d actually have a GREAT roster. You’re very close to being a big problem in this league. Excited to have you join us and GL

sorry i didnt get a chance to work on my teams yesterday...cant seem to figure this backcourt out tonight and want to keep working on it...league#s out tomorrow(hopefully)

uggghhh finally done with this underwhelming build

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