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I think just 1 left...Dont forgot to change the title to reflect that...I feel that matters sometimes
12/17/2025 11:13 PM
Posted by 7stringplayr on 12/17/2025 11:13:00 PM (view original):
I think just 1 left...Dont forgot to change the title to reflect that...I feel that matters sometimes
I agree
12/19/2025 12:09 AM
I am in.
12/19/2025 1:55 AM
I realize I posted the wrong time zone when I sent the time, but it was too late to fix it as I was already halfway done by the time I realized what happened. Sorry about that but there will be a VOD for it.

Here is my roster:
1996 Greg Swindell became 1996 Greg Maddux, which then became 1995 Greg Maddux
1993 Luis Gonzalez become 1993 Juan Gonzalez
Round 4 was rerolled
1969 Ron Kline became 1964 Ron Kline

Total salary: 114m and change
1897 Duke Farrell
1934 Hal Trosky
1981 Ron Guidry
1982 Charlie Hough
2008 DJ Carrasco
1954 Stan Musial
2001 Bernie Williams
2011 Kameron Loe
2007 Rajai Davis
1995 Greg Maddux via 1996 Greg Swindell
1897 Deacon McGuire
1930 Tom Oliver
1918 Fred Toney (Reds)
1926 Willis Hudlin
1903 Bobby Lowe
2008 Mark Teixiera (Angels)
1936 Jackie Hayes
1993 Juan Gonzalez vis 1993 Luis Gonzalez
2015 Nick Ahmed
1989 Rob Dibble
1930 Woody English
2013 JJ Hoover
1938 Tony Lazzeri
1956 Chuck Stobbs
1964 Ron Kline via 1969 Ron Kline
12/20/2025 10:41 PM
YBJSPORTS - After Rnd 1 - Salary $12.6M

In order to help with your team building prowess, you will be given 5 lifelines! (Yes the theme is all about 5s!)
1: Twist a player exactly 5 years (your crappy 1925 Ruth can become a legendary 1920 Ruth)
2: Twist a player LESS than 5 years (your crappy 1922 Ruth can become 1921 or 1920 etc.)
3: Twist the first name (your 1995 Mike Maddux will obviously get a boost)
4: Twist the last name (your 1995 Greg Gagne will get a very nice boost)
5: Reroll the team
12/21/2025 12:52 PM
Just finished up, thanks Tulsa for another well run and fun draft.
Here's my rundown of my rounds:
Round 1
1978 Gary Carter - A+ arm with some pop, happy to snag this in the 1st
1927 Paul Waner - Outstanding start to the OF
1910 Russ Ford - absolutely ecstatic to land such an arm with no lifeline used
1975 Paul Blair - plan to use as PR or defensive replacement
1930 Jim Bottomley - lifeline to 1925 where he hits .367/.413/.578 to be my 1B

Round 2 initially rerolled, only useful piece was 1993 Rickey Henderson

Round 2
1977 Jose Cruz - decent OF
1890 Rasty Wright - in a pinch will be my DH if nothing else comes along with .413 OBP
1916 Tris Speaker- now 2 studs in OF with Waner
1951 Vic Raschi - innings guy
2016 Gavin Floyd

Round 3
1987 Ken Oberkfell - can play 3B or 2B, running out of time for IF
2016 Kyle Hendricks - solid to go with Ford
1964 Bob Humphreys
2012 Erik Kratz - backup C with .504 SLG
1972 Steve Barber - lifeline to 1972 Steve Carlton, giving me 3 big arms to bolster the rotation

Round 4
2020 Will Smith - not in need of another C but too good to pass up, may DH some
1990 Alan Trammell - needed SS, got one. Thought about twisting to 1993 his best year but wanted to save that just in case. Better defense in 1990 anyway
1916 Milt Stock- with only 1 round left , figured better grab a 3B to be safe
1992 Jim Austin
1959 Turk Lown

Round 5
1978 Willie Stargell - gives me some pop at DH
1916 Buck Herzog - solid defender for IF versatility
1972 Steve Barber
1913 Walt Dickson - making sure we have enough innings
2014 Alexei Ramirez to 2014 Jose Ramirez to 2017 Jose Ramirez - the just about perfect guy I needed with 2 lifelines left to sure up the infield

Ultimately the bullpen is weak but we are happy with the overall team and how we played out the lifelines
$129,230,274 with a lot of wasted PA
12/21/2025 5:59 PM (edited)
YBJSPORTS - After Rnd 2 - Salary $39.7M

In order to help with your team building prowess, you will be given 5 lifelines! (Yes the theme is all about 5s!)
1: Twist a player exactly 5 years (your crappy 1925 Ruth can become a legendary 1920 Ruth)
2: Twist a player LESS than 5 years (your crappy 1922 Ruth can become 1921 or 1920 etc.)
3: Twist the first name (your 1995 Mike Maddux will obviously get a boost)
4: Twist the last name (your 1995 Greg Gagne will get a very nice boost)
5: Reroll the team
12/21/2025 8:20 PM
YBJSPORTS - After Rnd 3 - Salary $75.6M

In order to help with your team building prowess, you will be given 5 lifelines! (Yes the theme is all about 5s!)
1: Twist a player exactly 5 years (your crappy 1925 Ruth can become a legendary 1920 Ruth)
2: Twist a player LESS than 5 years (your crappy 1922 Ruth can become 1921 or 1920 etc.)

3: Twist the first name (your 1995 Mike Maddux will obviously get a boost)
4: Twist the last name (your 1995 Greg Gagne will get a very nice boost)
5: Reroll the team
12/22/2025 10:47 AM
I'll add a writeup, because these are always fun to break down.

Round 1
2B Eddie Collins 1910
C Rollie Hemsley 1931
OF Tony Gwynn 1987
1B Daric Barton 2007
SP Mel Parnell 1949

Collins was the best "natural" pull of this roster, an A+ range glove with an .848 OPS# to lock up one of the key positions up the middle. I was hesitant about using any lifelines in the first round, but my pull of 1983 Gwynn gave me a shot at upgrading him to the very studly 1987 version (.947). I figured I would be unlikely to make a much better upgrade, and this gave me two strong hitters at least. Hemsley (.832 in 236 PA) makes a fine RH half of a catching platoon. Barton (1.043) is a beast of a PH, so that seemed useful.
I used my last pick on the pretty questionable Parnell, whose 2.98 ERC# was the best of this round and made me worried that might be as good I would get in the rotation. In retrospect, it's kind of a wasted $9M on what becomes a long reliever now. But it seemed like the best move at the time. I didn't want to use more than one lifeline either, anticipating mysteries to come.

Round 2
SP John Tudor 1985
SP Tarik Skubal 2023
RP Ron Perranoski 1969
RP Paul Lindblad 1971
1B David Segui 1995

Seeing Tudor drop in this round was very exciting, and I was able to add three other pitchers in Skubal (only 80 innings, but I'd used my lifeline that could have turned him into one of his CYA seasons), Perranoski (his best season) and Lindblad (another solid reliever). Astute readers will note that all five of my pitchers so far are lefties. Not the plan, but that's who I got. Segui offers me flexibility because he has a low-PA partial to use as a backup if I don't need him or a combined season to be a full-time player. The partial season is better by a decent bit, though.
My best lifeline option here was to turn 1986 Mike Smithson into Mike Schmidt and then flip him 5 years to the superstud 1981 season. I thought about because 3B could be a tough spot to fill, but using up two lifelines now seemed unwise. Plus, his 1986 season wasn't too bad and I could have just gone for that one, but risked later wishing I'd done both twists. So I wound up punting on it.

Round 3
C Joe Mauer 2009
OF Larry Walker 2004
OF Walt Bond 1962
RP Aroldis Chapman 2016
SP Jack Taylor 1902

Mauer was an exciting pull in this round, his best offensive season (1.004) and 602 PA to boot. Walker has only half a season, but it's a really good one (.990). It was tempting to twist him to 1999 and his 1.140 OPS#, but that's only 513 PA and I felt like maybe that wasn't the best use of the lifeline. Bond will join Barton as a PH stud (.385/.428/.796). 2016 is one of Chapman's best seasons, so that adds (that's right) another LH to the staff. For my last move, though, I pulled a lifeline to transform 1902 nobody Jack Katoll into Jack Taylor, with 384 IP, 2.16 ERC# and best of all someone who throws righty! (Fun fact: my starting hitters to this point are also all lefties.)

Round 4
SP Stan Coveleski 1917
RP Phil Maton 2024
OF George Van Haltren 1892
3B Marty McManus 1931
IF Adam Everett 2008

I used my Reroll lifeline here first, as the initial group's best bat was Norm Siebern with no better pitcher than the illustrious Al Orth. There was an opportunity to turn 1982 Darrell Evans into Dwight Evans, but that was about it. With the new version, I could finally remove Parnell from the rotation with the arrival of Coveleski (1.98), who will join Taylor and Tudor in a very solid 3-man rotation. Maton brings a 1.62 ERC# in 29 innings and at least he's a righty, too. The hitting wasn't great here. Van Haltren is a useable outfielder with good speed, but alas another LH bat. McManus has great range at 1B and 3B but isn't much of a hitter. Also, he has a 75 PA partial or a 511 PA combined, based on what I end up needing to fill. He could wind up starting at either corner, or sitting on the bench. Everett can't hit but he has 149 PA at 2B and SS to backup both spots as needed. I am still without a starter at SS and need some combo of 3rd OF and 1B/3B/DH in the last round.

Round 5
1B Mo Vaughn 2015
3B Yoan Moncada 2019
SS Ed Brinkman 1970
OF Willie Crawford 1974
RP Brad Brach 2015

Thankfully this last group filled some key spots. Vaughn (.932) and Moncada (.889) take over the infield corners nicely. I used my 5-year lifeline to swap Brinkman's 1975 season for his full-time 1970 with B+/A+ defense, though not much hitting. This combo along with Collins provides sparkling infield defense (all A- range or better and no fielding rating below the Bs). Filling out the other half of one OF spot with Walker didn't prove easy, nor did any of my options ever since Myles Straw in Round 1 offer anything close to good defense in center. All I could do is go with Crawford (yet another lefty with a lousy glove) to fill the outfield out.
This likely means using McManus' partial to cover the PA that Moncada can't handle and Segui's combined to be my DH. I couldn't find any opportunity to use the last name lifeline out of this group, save a chance to get a pitcher almost exactly the same as Brach so why bother?

I'm sitting at $124M in payroll at the moment, with a .313/.387/.476 slash and an outfield with defense as bad as the infield's is good. Even including Parnell's unneeded 311 innings, I've got 1,735 IP with a 2.07 ERA and 1.05 WHIP. It would look a lot better without Parnell.

Really fun drafting experience, TulsaG! I'm really curious to see how these rosters stack up.





12/22/2025 8:12 PM
YBJSPORTS - After Rnd 4 - Salary $88.3M

In order to help with your team building prowess, you will be given 5 lifelines! (Yes the theme is all about 5s!)
1: Twist a player exactly 5 years (your crappy 1925 Ruth can become a legendary 1920 Ruth)
2: Twist a player LESS than 5 years (your crappy 1922 Ruth can become 1921 or 1920 etc.)

3: Twist the first name (your 1995 Mike Maddux will obviously get a boost)
4: Twist the last name (your 1995 Greg Gagne will get a very nice boost)
5: Reroll the team
12/22/2025 9:18 PM
Round 1
1914 Donie Bush
1922 Casey Stengel
1969 Carl Yastzemski
1898 Jay Hughes
Use the exactly 5 year twist to turn 1917 Eddie Collins into 1912 Eddie Collins

This was the first round of my first draft of this type, so, other than the example pool that TulsaG generated, I really didn’t know what to expect. Bush is a full season shortstop with A+ range and a .378 OBP#, so that seemed good. Stengel provides an excellent (.351/.425/ .553) partial season. Hughes’s 3.01 ERC# seems pretty useless, but the underlying numbers (.238 OAV#, 3.18 BB/9#, 0.20 HR/9+) aren’t too, too bad; he provides 327 innings and maybe he can get a few people out. I understand why at the time I chose Yaz: I wanted another starting player and his OPS and defense are solid. But in hindsight, given the scarcity of good third basemen, perhaps 1983 Carney Lansford, despite only being half a season, might’ve been the right choice here. The final decision was what to do about Collins. His 1917 is relatively lousy. I could’ve twisted him to some of his best seasons (1913-1915), but figured that the “less than 5 year" twist was more valuable than the "exactly 5 year" twist, so I’d rather save that for later and settle for the solid, though clearly lesser, Collins here. Seems logical, right? Spoiler alert...

Round 2
1981 Eddie Murray
2014 Steve Pearce
2010 Roy Oswalt
1997 Mark Clark
2014 Jeurys Familia

I considered re-rolling this. Nothing here is super exciting. The one twist I could’ve used was 1976 Joe Decker to Joe Morgan, but I already had a second baseman so I saved it. Murray is a starting 1B but he combines with Yaz to give me two hitters in my lineup with subpar OBPs. Pearce is a half-season RHH masher who can field and pairs well with Stengel. Oswalt is a useful piece; good enough (212 IP, 2.34 ERC#) to be a starting pitcher but even better (83 IP, 1.73 ERC#) if you can afford to use him as a reliever. Clark and Familia are OK relievers. Not a horrible haul, but I’m not feeling super great about my team right now.

Round 3
1951 Matt Batts
1992 Dwight Smith
Twist 1999 Barry Bonds to 2002
1908 Addie Joss
2006 Josh Johnson

Now that’s more like it! 1908 Joss is one of the best pitchers in the sim [citation needed]. Smith is a good half-season DH. Johnson is a solid (157 IP, 3.23 ERC#) spot starter / long reliever. And Batts is useful because, as a wiser man than I once said, if you don’t have a catcher you have a lot of passed balls. And then there’s that Bonds guy, who I was obviously absolutely ecstatic to get, but...

I’m going to preface the following remarks by thanking TulsaG for creating this unique, creative, enjoyable theme, and for the voluminous work that he has done in running the drafts. I truly appreciate it, as I’m sure everyone who is participating does. But, as I wrote when I originally joined this league, I cannot for the life of me figure out why it is deemed necessary to declare which twist you’re using up front. There is no practical reason for it, except perhaps to inject additional randomness into a process that, in my opinion, already has the sufficient randomness inherent in the assignments of the pools of players. It seems to be frustration for the sake of frustration. And, certainly, frustration is a part of drafts; in fact, it’s among the most fun parts. But in a live draft against other people, any frustration that I feel is due to other people behaving differently than I expect, which I find fascinating. I’m willing to pay that price of frustration for the fascination of seeing how other people think. There is no such cost/benefit here. There’s only randomly generated punishment for making the correct decision. I fail to see how this rule makes this a better league. It’s literally the only thing about this league that I don’t like. /rant

Admittedly, however, even though I didn’t get to use 2004 Bonds or one of the elite Eddie Collins seasons, 2002 Bonds is still pretty sweet...


Round 4
1999 Tony Eusebio
1989 Kevin Mitchell
1983 Pete Ladd
1952 Bob Kelly
1996 Osvaldo Fernandez, twisted to 1996 Alex Fernandez, twisted to 1996 Alex Rodriguez

When I first received this draw, I was fairly certain that I’d re-roll. There was only one impact player on the list, and I didn’t see any way to use any of my remaining (first and last name) twists to improve my team. In fact, I sent TulsaG an email stating that I wanted a re-roll. But that was late Sunday night, and he (understandably) did not open my message. And then I started digging a little deeper. I wouldn’t have even done that except...I have a serious 1989 Kevin Mitchell fetish. He absolutely mashes for me every...single...time.... and I couldn’t deal with the fact I was throwing him back. And the thing is, I needed a third baseman. I had no one on my roster who could play third base. And while referring to what Kevin Mitchell does as "playing third base" might be a loose interpretation, at least he is eligible to stand nearby and watch ground balls roll past him. And absolutely mash. So I started looking at trying to use both name twists on the same player, which I had never previously considered doing. I was hoping to find a good pitcher. I did not. But I did find 1996 A-Rod. Now, I already had a starting shortstop in Donie Bush, but A-Rod would be a significant upgrade there [citation needed]. And while I still had needs elsewhere, there was no guarantee that, if I re-rolled, my final two sets of players would yield as much of an upgrade to my team as Mitchell and A-Rod would, even with the two twists. In other words, an A-Rod in the hand is worth two twists and a Bush. Thanks. I’ll be here all week. Try the veal.

As for the other guys, Eusebio is not great but he’s serviceable, has enough PAs to cover the position with Batts, and unlike Batts can field. He’s also the second-best Portuguese soccer player in history although in hindsight that might be a different Eusebio. Anyway, the rest of my lineup will now be excellent so I’m OK with one hole. Ladd (50 IP, 1.60 ERC#) should actually be a pretty darned good closer in this league, and Bob Kelly provides more decent innings. If I use Oswalt’s 212 IP season, I now only need about 90 good innings, about half a DH and someone who can actually field the ball while playing third base in order to complete my team. And I still have my re-roll available if needed.

Round 5
1973 Bob Montgomery
2024 Emmanuel Rivera
2001 Paul Lo Duca
1987 Tony Gwynn
2016 Jose Quintana

Let’s see...I received no good innings and nobody who can field at third base. Time for a re-roll? Hell, no! Not only did I receive an entire catching situation with Lo Duca (.320/.372/.571, B/A+) and Montgomery (.322/.353/.563), replacing my one weak offensive position with strength, I got one of the best Tony Gwynn seasons (.371/.447/.500, 56 SBs) to further bolster my lineup. Pitching? We don’t need no STEEENKING pitching! Quintana will provide more of my trademark mediocre innings. Rivera is there because in the 9th inning with a lead A/D- is better at third base than D/D-. Or so I’ve heard.

Was I better off keeping my Round 4 draw and using my two twists to get A-Rod? Well, assuming that my re-draw would’ve been the same as my Round 5 draw, I don’t see any places where I could’ve used either twist to improve my team, so I’d be going into my final draw needing to do better (with the two remaining twists) than Mitchell, A-Rod and a closer. Certainly possible, but by no means probable.

How will this team do? Well, they can hit but they can’t pitch. Funny how the guy who I considered fairly useless in Round 1 is my third starter. But man, this team can rake. Should be fun. Again, thanks to TulsaG for all the voodoo that he do so well.

Lineup, projected 6,000 PAs used: normalized .331/.420/.565
Pitching, projected 1,450 IP used: 2.52 ERC#, 1.10 WHIP#
$145.7M salary, ~$13M wasted
12/22/2025 9:59 PM (edited)
I sure hope you wasted enough money to keep me out of your division, barracuda. Though we can compare 87 Gwynns from afar, if we so choose. Great read. Enjoyed the jokes [citation needed].
12/22/2025 9:59 PM
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