Need 2 for 1982: Rickey's A's and Schmidt's Phils Topic

Edit: The Philadelphia Phillies franchise is still available, with the 1982 draft having just started. Their roster is updated below. The Minnesota Twins are available in a separate ad. I'm offering a $10 gift certificate with each team.

We're currently in the 1981 season, ending December 6, for the Franchise With Farm System progressive. We will need new owners for the Oakland A's and Philadelphia Phillies starting with the 1982 season. The basic concept is that the franchises started with their 1977 rosters, and add the rookies who come up with that franchise each year. So the A's get Tony Phillips and some others in 1982. They get Canseco in '85, McGwire in '86. The Phillies get Bob Dernier and Ozzie Virgil in 1982, Kevin Gross in 1983.

Both franchises (rosters below) already have a lot of talent (Henderson, Eckersley, Murphy, Armas; Schmidt, Carlton, Lonnie Smith, Luzinski), whether for building around or as trade bait.

Sitemail me if you're interested, I'll give you all the details on league rules. If you take the team before our current season ends, you can start negotiating trades that would take effect after the season.
12/7/2016 9:45 AM (edited)
1982 Philadelphia Phillies {Edited to include P. Eric Show as 1st Round Draft Pick}
25 Keepers + #3 Draft Pick
C 1982 Bob Boone R 539 472 7 58 0-2 34-39 67.4 .256 .310 .337 B/B- $3,722,000
1B 1982 Broderick Perkins L 381 347 2 34 2-1 20-26 173.5 .271 .325 .340 B+/C+ $2,115,369
2B 1982 Duane Kuiper L 257 218 0 17 2-2 24-32 218.0 .280 .375 .330 B-/D- $1,331,180
3B 1982 Mike Schmidt R 631 514 35 87 14-7 131-107 14.7 .280 .403 .547 C+/B $6,018,223
SS 1982 Larry Bowa S 549 499 0 29 8-3 38-39 499.0 .246 .302 .305 B/D $2,541,266
OF 1982 Garry Maddox R 428 412 8 61 7-5 32-12 51.5 .284 .303 .417 A/C+ $3,093,205
OF 1982 Jeff Burroughs R 334 285 16 48 1-3 61-45 17.8 .277 .372 .505 D-/D- $2,091,929
OF 1982 Lonnie Smith R 672 592 8 69 68-26 74-64 74.0 .307 .381 .434 C-/C+ $5,114,338
Util 1982 Greg Luzinski R 686 583 18 102 1-1 120-89 32.4 .292 .386 .451 D-/D- $4,120,705
3B 1982 Jim Morrison R 96 86 4 15 2-0 14-5 21.5 .279 .309 .488 D+/D- $507,191
OF 1982 Bob Dernier R 412 370 4 21 42-12 69-36 92.5 .249 .315 .319 B-/C $2,307,724
C 1982 Ozzie Virgil R 111 101 3 8 0-1 26-10 33.7 .238 .306 .386 D/B $532,508
OF 1982 Keith Moreland R 532 476 15 68 0-6 71-46 31.7 .261 .326 .399 B+/D+ $3,017,189
OF 1982 Jerry Martin R 565 519 15 65 1-1 138-38 34.6 .266 .316 .399 C+/B $3,395,957
OF 1982 Dane Iorg L 264 238 0 34 0-1 23-23 238.0 .294 .352 .361 C-/D- $1,334,986
3B 1982 Rafael Landestoy S 127 111 1 9 2-0 14-8 111.0 .189 .250 .243 A+/D- $354,439
Batting Totals 6584 5823 136 725 150-71 889-619 42.8 .272 .342 .400 C+/C- $41,598,209
SP 1982 Steve Carlton L 23-11-0 296 3.10 .232 1.15 8.71 2.62 0.52 286-86 $8,809,728
SP/RP 1982 Larry Christenson R 9-10-0 223 3.47 .253 1.19 5.85 2.14 0.61 145-53 $5,235,514
SP/RP 1982 Eric Show R 10-6-3 150 2.64 .217 1.10 5.28 2.88 0.60 88-48 $4,161,784
SP/RP 1982 Ron Reed R 5-5-14 98 2.66 .235 1.11 5.23 2.20 0.37 57-24 $2,732,007
SP/RP 1982 Gene Garber R 8-10-30 120 2.34 .231 1.11 5.13 2.41 0.30 68-32 $3,603,964
SP/RP 1982 Porfi Altamirano R 5-1-2 39 4.15 .281 1.41 6.00 3.23 0.46 26-14 $652,579
SP/RP 1982 Tug McGraw L 3-3-5 40 4.31 .305 1.56 5.67 2.72 0.68 25-12 $516,735
SP/RP 1982 Bob Owchinko L 2-4-3 102 5.21 .275 1.60 5.91 4.59 0.97 67-52 $1,699,507
SP/RP 1982 Warren Brusstar R 4-3-2 41 4.17 .307 1.41 4.17 1.76 0.88 19-8 $585,822
SP/RP 1982 Randy Lerch L 10-7-0 133 4.69 .287 1.57 2.52 4.01 0.82 37-59 $2,157,793
Pitching Totals 79-60-59 1,242 3.45 .251 1.25 5.94 2.82 0.60 818-388 $30,155,433

Phillies have an extra draft pick in the 3rd round due to a trade.
12/7/2016 9:44 AM (edited)
1982 Oakland A's
(25 keepers, so need to cut 5)
C 1982 Steve Yeager R 215 196 2 18 0-0 28-13 98.0 .245 .294 .321 B/C+ $1,875,574
1B 1982 Bruce Bochte L 586 509 12 70 8-5 71-67 42.4 .297 .380 .409 B+/D- $3,483,209
2B 1982 Tim Flannery L 423 379 0 30 1-0 32-30 379.0 .264 .317 .330 C/C $2,161,958
3B 1982 Wayne Gross L 451 386 9 41 3-1 50-53 42.9 .251 .342 .358 A/C $2,646,296
SS 1982 Johnnie Lemaster R 474 436 2 30 13-4 78-31 218.0 .216 .267 .266 C+/C- $2,042,375
OF 1982 Rickey Henderson R 656 536 10 51 130-42 94-116 53.6 .267 .398 .382 C/A $5,196,879
OF 1982 Dwayne Murphy L 660 543 27 94 26-8 122-94 20.1 .238 .349 .418 B/A+ $5,740,704
OF 1982 Tony Armas R 578 536 28 89 2-2 128-33 19.1 .233 .275 .433 B/B+ $3,720,249
C 1982 Ron Hodges L 276 228 5 27 4-3 40-41 45.6 .246 .358 .373 C/B $1,983,956
OF 1982 Mickey Hatcher R 286 277 3 26 0-2 27-8 92.3 .249 .269 .343 B+/D $1,153,167
OF 1982 Mike Davis L 77 75 1 10 3-2 8-2 75.0 .400 .416 .493 C/A+ $1,068,199
C 1982 Bob Kearney R 78 71 0 5 0-0 10-3 71.0 .169 .218 .211 D/B+ $427,510
SS 1982 Tony Phillips S 100 81 0 8 2-3 26-12 81.0 .210 .326 .284 C/D- $410,234
SP 1982 Dennis Eckersley R 13-13-0 225 3.73 .261 1.21 5.10 1.73 1.24 127-43 $4,780,560
SP/RP 1982 Rick Langford R 11-16-0 238 4.21 .281 1.32 3.00 1.86 1.25 79-49 $4,295,959
SP/RP 1982 Mike Morgan R 7-11-0 151 4.37 .285 1.56 4.25 4.01 0.90 71-67 $2,471,779
SP/RP 1982 Dave Beard R 10-9-11 92 3.44 .244 1.31 7.17 3.44 0.88 73-35 $2,109,426
SP/RP 1982 Vida Blue L 13-12-0 181 3.78 .238 1.34 5.12 3.98 0.99 103-80 $3,925,413
SP/RP 1982 Steve McCatty R 6-3-0 129 3.99 .255 1.51 4.62 4.90 1.12 66-70 $2,228,982
SP/RP 1982 Gary Lucas L 1-10-16 98 3.24 .245 1.21 5.92 2.68 0.46 64-29 $2,428,550
Recommended Cuts (5 of these, but there is a lot of room for judgment calls with this roster!):
C 1982 Jim Essian R 165 153 3 20 2-0 7-11 51.0 .275 .327 .386 A/A $1,485,742
OF 1982 Miguel Dilone S 412 379 3 25 33-5 36-25 126.3 .235 .286 .306 D+/C- $1,838,701
2B 1982 Tom Veryzer R 58 54 0 4 1-0 4-3 54.0 .333 .362 .370 D/D- $302,408
3B 1982 Tom Brookens R 432 398 9 58 5-9 63-27 44.2 .231 .277 .352 C-/D+ $1,810,257
1B 1982 Mike Squires L 213 195 1 21 3-3 13-14 195.0 .267 .316 .359 B+/D- $953,236
C 1982 Jeff Newman R 268 251 6 30 0-1 49-14 41.8 .199 .240 .315 B/B- $1,197,616
SP/RP 1982 Mike Norris R 7-11-0 167 4.76 .242 1.43 4.49 4.55 1.35 83-84 $3,063,254
SP/RP 1982 Tim Conroy L 2-2-0 26 3.55 .222 1.50 6.04 6.40 0.36 17-18 $473,077
SP/RP 1982 Doc Medich R 12-15-0 186 5.04 .286 1.59 3.54 4.51 0.58 73-93 $3,319,655
SP/RP 1982 Jeff Jones R 3-1-0 37 5.11 .306 1.89 4.38 6.32 1.46 18-26 $322,382
11/2/2016 10:39 PM (edited)
League Rules:

Concept: Start with 20 of the real franchises and their 1977 rosters. In subsequent seasons, each franchise gets the rookies who really came up with that team. For example, Oakland gets Dwayne Murphy and others in 1978, Rickey Henderson and others in 1979, etc, eventually getting McGwire and Canseco... The rookies are assigned based on their first team during their first WIS-eligible season. This is a WIS version of mimicking the real-life farm systems for each franchise.

A player's WIS rookie season defines his first team. That makes it easier to identify the rookies, and also more likely to put a player on the team he was associated with for more of his career. {EDIT: Let's call this the Ryne Sandberg Rule, since he is a good example. Sandberg will belong to the Chicago Cubs, because his first season in WIS was with the Cubs (1982). His 13 games with the Phillies in 1981 do not affect this, since he does not have a WIS entry from 1981. If a player splits his WIS rookie season between two or more teams, he belongs to the franchise that he played his first game with during that WIS rookie season.}

Once a player belongs to a franchise, he stays with that franchise until being traded (in the sim) or cut... it is up to the owners here to be better general managers than their real-life counterparts.

Rookie Drafts: For the six franchises that are not claimed in 1977 (Padres, Giants, Indians, Blue Jays, Yankees, Brewers), their rookies are draft eligible. Obviously the rookie draft will never be very deep, since the rookies will only come from six franchises until the expansions of 1993 and beyond. Rookie draft order will be set by your franchise's sim winning percentage compared to its real-life winning percentage. If your team over-performs compared to real-life, it gets rewarded with better draft position. This should discourage tanking. Playoff teams drop to the bottom four spots of the draft order.

Keepers / Waivers: I'm thinking let everyone keep up to 25 players, using real players for AAA. The catch is that any player who is not on injured reserve (missing from the WIS database for that season) has to appear in at least 5 of your games, or he will be waived and put into the draft pool. So if a good prospect has a lousy season, you can't just park him in AAA the entire season… he has to at least make a few appearances. But it is up to individual owners to police this - if it is your turn to draft and you see that Cincinnati didn't let that crappy young 1970's Mario Soto into 5 or more games, go ahead and draft him! You get rewarded for doing your homework and finding a steal. Edit: The 25 keeper limit includes rookies for the following season. If you are too late posting keepers, they will be assigned based on your player usage in the previous season, so we can get on with the draft. In that case, your keepers will be all your franchise's new rookies, and your returning players with the most (PA+IP) in the current (or recently concluded) sim season.

Since there are not many quality players to choose from in each year's draft, the off-season should move very quickly… if you miss your time slot for the draft, we'll move on to the next owner, and you probably won't be missing out on a player who is worth complaining about anyway. The idea for this league came partly from frustration waiting for a normal progressive to move from season to season, and partly from realizing that sometimes life just gets in the way of doing these drafts.

Extra Pitching: One quirk I would like to include, but other owners can vote this down if it is too unpopular… each team will get one additional pitcher per season, randomly drawn from a pool of moderate-quality pre-1960 pitchers with around 100 IP and around $2.5-3.0 M salaries. The purpose is to bolster the balance of pitching versus offense, since all progressives I've been in have had ridiculous offensive stats. This gives every team one more competent pitcher for the bullpen, or a spot starter, but not someone you would build a team around.

Hall of Fame: If enough owners are interested, we'll cast Hall of Fame ballots for players whose WIS careers have recently ended. I'll try to post career stats for candidates, merging pre-1977 real-life with the progressive's stats. But anyone can nominate a player.

Miscellaneous
- Four 5-team divisions, aligned similar to real life as much as possible.
- No salary cap
- No moving teams / ballparks until after 5 seasons (1981). After that, you can use your 1st round rookie draft pick to move to an available ballpark. But that only changes your ballpark, not your franchise name and available rookies. For example, if no one takes the NY Yankees when the league gets started, then someone can eventually move their franchise to Yankee Stadium. The Boston Red Sox could become the New York Red Sox (imagine that!), with Boggs, Clemens, etc coming up in the farm system. A team that has moved cannot move again for at least 5 seasons.
- DH in AL only
- Trades are mostly unrestricted, but subject to veto by 6 owners. Limit on trading draft picks or rookies too far out in the future - you can't trade a 1983 rookie or draft pick until the 1981 season ends.
- For players who missed 1977 in WIS, but were not rookies when they returned later, they go into the rookie draft pool when they return. They do not belong to a team first.
11/2/2016 10:36 PM
I'll take Oakland
11/3/2016 12:25 AM
Great, welcome aboard eschwartz67. I've given you forum access.
11/3/2016 12:49 AM
I'm going to upgrade the Phillies draft position, trading draft positions between the Braves and Phillies. My own Braves franchise is currently in line for the #2 pick, with Philadelphia #16 (out of 20) if the season ended today. So the Phillies will get a very high draft pick instead. Some of the rookies available include Tony Gwynn, Chili Davis, Eric Show, Bob Brenly, Mark Eichhorn, Dave Dravecky, Luis Deleon, Alan Wiggins, Steve Balboni.
11/15/2016 11:22 AM (edited)
After a few wins, that Braves draft pick I am offering to the Phillies is now in line to be #1 overall (Tony Gwynn!).
11/16/2016 9:49 AM
I'll offer a $10 WIS gift certificate with the Phillies, payable when the season starts. Sitemail me to take the team.

11/27/2016 10:59 PM
For the Phillies franchise, Greg Luzinski would be good trade bait for an AL team needing a DH. Seattle is offering 2B Julio Cruz for him.
12/7/2016 9:46 AM
Need 2 for 1982: Rickey's A's and Schmidt's Phils Topic

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