Data from Iba, Allen, Tark and Phelan. 3/30/17

Total Battles - 370
VH v H - 263
VH v VH v H- 50
VH v H v H - 38


High win %
Total battles - 31%
VH v H - 28%
VH v VH v H- 38%
VH v H v H - 42%

This past season in Tark, in VH v H battles, the VH team won 20 out of 22 battles. By far the most lopsided I've seen.

It looks that the three teams battle is in favor of H.

That's two teams vs one. If it's 40% VH and 30% each for H, it's really 60% in favor of H.

Posted by Benis on 2/12/2017 9:04:00 AM (view original):
This past season in Tark, in VH v H battles, the VH team won 20 out of 22 battles. By far the most lopsided I've seen.

Wait , so very high beats high most of the time? That can't be right! Poster after poster is 0- forever in battles.

Posted by Trentonjoe on 2/12/2017 9:44:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/12/2017 9:04:00 AM (view original):
This past season in Tark, in VH v H battles, the VH team won 20 out of 22 battles. By far the most lopsided I've seen.

Wait , so very high beats high most of the time? That can't be right! Poster after poster is 0- forever in battles.

VH beats H about 70% of the time in a one on one battle. Which is what we always figured from Day 1 and now have the data to back up.

Did Spud hack your account TJ? Very spudlike post you got there.

Nah, I was just sitting around polishing my participation trophies thinking about reasons why this game used to be better when I had way more advantages than the other guy because I earned it.

LOL

Posted by Trentonjoe on 2/12/2017 10:02:00 AM (view original):
Nah, I was just sitting around polishing my participation trophies thinking about reasons why this game used to be better when I had way more advantages than the other guy because I earned it.

K

Posted by MikeT23 on 2/12/2017 9:34:00 AM (view original):
That's two teams vs one. If it's 40% VH and 30% each for H, it's really 60% in favor of H.

Mike Vh,Vh, h 40%

Posted by zorzii on 2/12/2017 10:50:00 AM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 2/12/2017 9:34:00 AM (view original):
That's two teams vs one. If it's 40% VH and 30% each for H, it's really 60% in favor of H.

Mike Vh,Vh, h 40%

Yeah that is the one that I personally don''t like. I talked about it back in October

https://www.whatifsports.com/forums/Posts.aspx?topicID=496649&threadID=11034721#l_11034721

I think in a VH v VH v H, it should be more like 15-20% for the H. Because basically what it's saying is that if you're the H, you'd rather be in a VH v VH v H battle than a VH v H battle. And that doesn't make much sense IMO.

Edit - ah, I actually didn't have the data from this post in there. Updated numbers in 1st post

Is this data able to show when the winner was higher v lower prestige as well?

Posted by Trentonjoe on 2/12/2017 9:44:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 2/12/2017 9:04:00 AM (view original):
This past season in Tark, in VH v H battles, the VH team won 20 out of 22 battles. By far the most lopsided I've seen.

Wait , so very high beats high most of the time? That can't be right! Poster after poster is 0- forever in battles.

Yup. There are whiners, as you note, while there are other coaches learning to recruit. Not much if any overlap in those two groups.

Posted by zhawks on 2/12/2017 11:23:00 AM (view original):
Is this data able to show when the winner was higher v lower prestige as well?

Would that matter? Isn't prestige a multiplier for effort so it is already taken into account when determining whether a team is at VH or H?

Posted by zhawks on 2/12/2017 11:23:00 AM (view original):
Is this data able to show when the winner was higher v lower prestige as well?

Nah. I did it all manual so I'd have to document that too which I didn't do. If we had a fancy computer programming savvy way to do then it'd be a lot easier.