I put a ticket in this several years ago as a bug, but neither I nor Tom/Paul could figure it out. When I came back recently, it happened again and I put a new ticket in on it. We still couldn't figure it out. I spent some time trying to isolate what caused/allowed this particular bug to happen and after isolating it and demonstrating repeatability, I gave all of the info to admin. It is on their list of bugs to fix, though I asked them if we could just leave as-is or roll back the 40 PC minimum for starters given the growing prevalence of openers and bullpen games in MLB. They said it is very low-priority and won't be fixed any time soon.

I've been asked about it in every league I've tested it and used it, and I told admin I'd share in the forums so it would be fair to everyone.

You can set your starters (any role) to any pitch count you want, including a 5/5, 5/15, 25-35, etc... so if you want to start Mariano Rivera, Sean Doolittle, and Eric Gagne in a 3-man rotation or even a 2-man rotation you now can without having to worry about in-game fatigue.

To set it up, you set the pitchers you want as starter as relievers (any role) with the PC settings you want them to have as starters. LEAVE YOUR ADVANCED SETTINGS WINDOW OPEN after you save those settings. Switch over to your managers center window and move them to the starter roles you want them in, switch back to the advanced settings window you left open (do not open a new one), and re-save without changing any settings for them (you can change the settings for the guys you are not moving to starter). They will now display as "none/none" however, the previous settings will hold despite this visual change. If you set them to 5/15, it will still be 5/15, even though it says none/none. DO NOT SAVE YOUR ADVANCED SETTINGS AGAIN or else it will save it as none/none and you'll find your 5/15 starter throwing 117 pitches and being fatigued for the rest of the season. If you need to make changes to any settings (maybe you called up a AAA guy), you need to redo the whole process of moving them to the bullpen and re-setting/saving their PC and moving them back to their starter roles with the advanced setting window left open.

Here is an example of a Silver King I have that has started 80 of 80 team games, is SP1, and has not thrown more than 10 pitches in a game (more than 7 only 4 times). (This is also a good example of the appearance fatigue I just posted about elsewhere in practice.)

Man, what kind of defense are you playing where Silver King has allowed 7 earned and 32 unearned runs?

Posted by schwarze on 11/2/2020 5:13:00 PM (view original):
Man, what kind of defense are you playing where Silver King has allowed 7 earned and 32 unearned runs?

No defense whatsoever... this is from a failure league, so the goal is to lose as many as possible... I've got an entire team of DHs playing the field, with my left-handed DHs playing SS, 3B, and 2B. And also one of the teams that has the bugged Jose Martinez not making any outs at all in the OF.

Outstanding. Thank you.

Nice work, just4me! This might come in handy one day.

Posted by just4me on 11/2/2020 5:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by schwarze on 11/2/2020 5:13:00 PM (view original):
Man, what kind of defense are you playing where Silver King has allowed 7 earned and 32 unearned runs?

No defense whatsoever... this is from a failure league, so the goal is to lose as many as possible... I've got an entire team of DHs playing the field, with my left-handed DHs playing SS, 3B, and 2B. And also one of the teams that has the bugged Jose Martinez not making any outs at all in the OF.

So that's how you're losing so many games!!

I planned on playing everyone out of position, but never thought of having DHs doing it. Good Job.

I just tried this with a tandem and it did not work. Not sure if I misunderstood the instructions or if tandems somehow don't allow this glitch.

Posted by contrarian23 on 11/3/2020 11:22:00 AM (view original):
I just tried this with a tandem and it did not work. Not sure if I misunderstood the instructions or if tandems somehow don't allow this glitch.

I've tested with tandems, so I know it works there... maybe I wasn't clear on the instructions, but essentially you're setting their PCs while they are in an RP role and saving the settings, then moving them to the tandem role without closing the advanced settings window where you've already saved their PC. After you move them to tandem spots, then you switch back to the already open advanced settings window and hit [save] again. It'll show as "none/none" and not the settings you set, but when they pitch, they'll pitch to the settings that were saved for them in the RP role before moving them to tandem roles.

Hopefully that clears it up a little?

Speaking of tandems, there's another glitch that'll allow you to set multiple pitchers as Starter A/b or tandem a/b

Posted by chargingryno on 11/4/2020 1:13:00 PM (view original):
Speaking of tandems, there's another glitch that'll allow you to set multiple pitchers as Starter A/b or tandem a/b

Is there a thread on that? Bc that would have been very useful for me in the past and probably in the future.

Posted by milest on 11/4/2020 7:53:00 PM (view original):

Posted by chargingryno on 11/4/2020 1:13:00 PM (view original):
Speaking of tandems, there's another glitch that'll allow you to set multiple pitchers as Starter A/b or tandem a/b

Is there a thread on that? Bc that would have been very useful for me in the past and probably in the future.

No I don't think so. You can set an extra "B" pitcher at anytime; set Tandem A, then set 3 Tandem B's. Same goes for Starter1a/b. Set your Starter A, then set multiple Starter B's (this has worked well in my Silver King OL's where I set King as my Starter 1a, and then set 3-5 100IP starters as Starter 1b.

Sparky will select starter b based on OAV I believe.

To set multiple starter A or tandem A, that pitcher needs to be the scheduled pitcher for the next game; Starter A is the scheduled starter for the next game, I can then go and set multiple pitchers (I've only down 2-3 at a time) to the Starter A role.

Just4me - Do you know whether changing advanced hitter settings after fixing advanced pitcher settings in the manner described might fiddle the latter?

Posted by point_piper on 11/7/2020 12:55:00 AM (view original):
Just4me - Do you know whether changing advanced hitter settings after fixing advanced pitcher settings in the manner described might fiddle the latter?

Not that I’ve noticed, but I wasn’t paying explicit attention to that. I think I’ve adjusted hitting settings without affecting the pitcher settings, but I’d hate to say that and be wrong. I’d lean heavily towards no effect and you can do safely, but I’m not 100%

Thanks, I’ve tried it out now both ways and can confirm that changing advanced hitter settings afterwards does not disrupt the process you discovered.